Re: Tom Hardy To Play" Bane" In Batman Sequel

BHoward Sun May 01, 2011 10:17 pm

Ha, good one. Laughing

I really hate sticking up for Nolan, because I really believe he's blocked some things us fans would like to see. But I see very much that he likes to work with the same people and do see that as a major reason Hardy got the part. Holmes just wasn't a good fit. I'm sure if we looked deep enough, I'm sure there was a favor owed to Maggie Gyllenhall (sp?) as well.

Apologist Puncher Sun May 01, 2011 10:25 pm

BHoward wrote:Ha, good one.

I really hate sticking up for Nolan, because I really believe he's blocked some things us fans would like to see. But I see very much that he likes to work with the same people and do see that as a major reason Hardy got the part. Holmes just wasn't a good fit. I'm sure if we looked deep enough, I'm sure there was a favor owed to Maggie Gyllenhall (sp?) as well.

See, here's the thing: I don't dislike Nolan. Quite the contrary. 'Batman Begins', 'The Dark Knight' and 'The Prestige' are a few of my favorite films. Perfect? Not hardly. But I still enjoy them very much.

But his casting methods are hardly above reproach. THAT is my biggest issue with him.

BHoward Sun May 01, 2011 10:38 pm

I don't dislike him either. Couple of things, I think he (indirectly) and his supporters were part of the reason that JL movie awhile back getting stopped and the reason we haven't ever seen Bruce Wayne on Smallville. Due to the genre of movies I prefer, that's a major sticking point for me. And the fact his supporters like to lick his balls whenever they get a chance. That's not his fault of course, but the worship they have towards the guy is sickening.

His movie casting is movie nepotism for sure, (don't know if that's the word I'm looking for). Nothing wrong with that, he wouldn't be the first or last director to exert his will and do the same style of casting.

Apologist Puncher Sun May 01, 2011 10:48 pm

BHoward wrote: Nothing wrong with that, he wouldn't be the first or last director to exert his will and do the same style of casting.

See, that's just it: I think there IS something wrong with that.

To pick someone you are "familiar" with instead of the right person for the role USUALLY leads to one thing:

Changing the character to fit the actor.

And to ME, that is just WRONG. Am I saying Hardy is going to "blow", or "ruin" the movie? Nope, haven't seen it. I just don't see Nolan relying on CGI enough to give Bane the appearance he deserves, so the scenario above is a REAL concern.

thecolorsblend Sun May 01, 2011 10:55 pm

BHoward wrote:That would be the thing to do if Nolan is doing a direct interpretation of the character. Unless he's using a lot of cgi, he's not doing a direct interpretation. With Nolan, there is always something more to it. Also, I'm always for the better actor than the taking someone just because they look like a character. Looks are a good foundation, but you can always change someones look, but can't always make them a better actor. While we haven't seen Hardy play this type of character, we do know that he is a good actor in the characters he has portrayed.

That would fly if we were talking about any character besides Bane. But Bane is not only willing to break people in half, he looks like he's physically capable of doing so.

And if Nolan was planning to add a metric fuckton of CGI onto Tom Hardy (which seems unlikely anyway given Nolan's apparent distaste for CGI), why is Hardy bulking up like he is?

I just don't see a happy ending anywhere in here based on what we know.

BHoward Sun May 01, 2011 11:23 pm

Apologist Puncher wrote:
BHoward wrote: Nothing wrong with that, he wouldn't be the first or last director to exert his will and do the same style of casting.

See, that's just it: I think there IS something wrong with that.

To pick someone you are "familiar" with instead of the right person for the role USUALLY leads to one thing:

Changing the character to fit the actor.

And to ME, that is just WRONG. Am I saying Hardy is going to "blow", or "ruin" the movie? Nope, haven't seen it. I just don't see Nolan relying on CGI enough to give Bane the appearance he deserves, so the scenario above is a REAL concern.

You are probably right

Apologist Puncher Sun May 01, 2011 11:31 pm

I WANT the movie to succeed. I really do. But THIS is too hard, and recent, to forget:

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webhead2006 Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:20 pm

Some set photos of tom as bane:
http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/Wolvie09/news/?a=43293

thecolorsblend Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:23 pm

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non_amos Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:52 pm

I think we're in serious trouble here! I know I joke & say 'THE HULKING 200-LB. BANE' but sheesh! He doesn't even look that big with all of those bulky clothes on! And in reference to those articles about Shia Lebaeuf stomping a mud-hole in Hardy, I saw a pic with the two of them side-by-side & Shia even looked bigger than Hardy! I just don't see how Nolan can justify this. Is it really a stretch to believe that a guy could be a hulked-up steroid freak?! They could've even used someone like the wrestler BATISTA who's now acting in 'WWE films' as 'Dave Bautista'. The point is, Bane should look like that & have considerable HEIGHT also! Like I said, I think we're in serious trouble but expect duh apologists to swallow it hook, line, & sinker!

It's also hard to understand that 'Father Finian' had a 'falling-out' with you over this issue! Sure, we don't all agree, all the time, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But to suggest how 'big' Bane appears in that teaser trailer & then lambast YOU for liking Burton's version, then quit the site, is just astounding. Maybe the 1989 film wasn't perfect but IMHO, it started out right, more or less, that is, until it was butchered by Joel Shumacher. I think we discussed this in the past but I believe Michael Keaton was even originally open to a THIRD film but he wasn't gonna play '2nd fiddle' to Jim Carey in money or whatever else. And who can blame him? So obviously neither Keaton or Burton are to blame for everything. That honor goes to the chimps at WB/DC! Now they're 're-imagining' Bane & 'Father' approves?!

I don't approve! Evil or Very Mad

Apologist Puncher Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:31 pm

thecolorsblend wrote:

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Apologist Puncher Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:38 pm

non_amos wrote:I think we're in serious trouble here! I know I joke & say 'THE HULKING 200-LB. BANE' but sheesh! He doesn't even look that big with all of those bulky clothes on! And in reference to those articles about Shia Lebaeuf stomping a mud-hole in Hardy, I saw a pic with the two of them side-by-side & Shia even looked bigger than Hardy! I just don't see how Nolan can justify this. Is it really a stretch to believe that a guy could be a hulked-up steroid freak?! They could've even used someone like the wrestler BATISTA who's now acting in 'WWE films' as 'Dave Bautista'. The point is, Bane should look like that & have considerable HEIGHT also! Like I said, I think we're in serious trouble but expect duh apologists to swallow it hook, line, & sinker!

You know, if I tilt my head waaay back, squint my eyes, spin my chair around really fast until I am dizzy, then drink a bottle of Jack Daniels, the Hardy Boy just MIGHT look like this:
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Nope, not even then.....

It's also hard to understand that 'Father Finian' had a 'falling-out' with you over this issue! Sure, we don't all agree, all the time, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But to suggest how 'big' Bane appears in that teaser trailer & then lambast YOU for liking Burton's version, then quit the site, is just astounding. Maybe the 1989 film wasn't perfect but IMHO, it started out right, more or less, that is, until it was butchered by Joel Shumacher. I think we discussed this in the past but I believe Michael Keaton was even originally open to a THIRD film but he wasn't gonna play '2nd fiddle' to Jim Carey in money or whatever else. And who can blame him? So obviously neither Keaton or Burton are to blame for everything. That honor goes to the chimps at WB/DC! Now they're 're-imagining' Bane & 'Father' approves?!

I don't approve!

I really don't know what to say about this. It was random, out of the blue, and nothing personal against him. At all. But some people just have their issues I guess, and for him, apparently Nolan's Bat-film's was it.

He hasn't been deleted though, he's just "MIA" at the moment. So maybe he'll change his mind once the film comes out, or he see's exactly what our issues are with Little Hardy Boy and his 'Mortal Kombat' mask.

Comicbookfan-V2 Sun Jul 31, 2011 5:10 am

Well I'm gonna go on a limb here, even though Bane maybe a good villain choice for the third & final film however after seeing that photo of Tom Hardy as Bane now it leaves me to thinking... Is this what Bane actually going to look like? It also begs the question as to whether Nolan finally lose his touch or does he have some sort of Ace up of his sleeve? Personally, I hope it's more of the latter since I have yet to question Nolan's methods of direction! For all we know that could very well be Bane in his non-venom status, so it must make you think that Bane should look awhole lot differently after being jaked up on venom with a possible chance of CGI being in use even though many people believe that Nolan dosen't fully depend on the use of CGI but this could very well be a change of pace!

webhead2006 Sun Jul 31, 2011 1:01 pm

Would be nice if there where to be some cgi enhancements to bane. But with nolan not really keen on using cgi for just let's cgi this or that. Probably not going to happen. I do still wonder why he choose to do bane of all characters. When hugo/black mask/riddler and others where fair more logical choices for tom to play.

Comicbookfan-V2 Sun Jul 31, 2011 5:39 pm

I too thought that villains like Riddler, Penguin and Bane would be good choices for a third/final installment with the acception of Riddler being more of the obvious choice but as it turns out Nolan decided to go with Bane which is actually okay with the consideration that Bane is one of Bat's greatest and most challengable opponents and what better way to conclude the film series than using the one that is best known for breaking Batman's back/spine?

Comicbookfan-V2 Sun Jul 31, 2011 5:46 pm

BTW I just found some scene photos of Bats and Bane in the same scene over at Comicbookmovie.com, looks pretty much like a fight scene!

Apologist Puncher Sun Jul 31, 2011 8:20 pm

Latino Review

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Little Hardy Boy is standing at least one step above Bale, and is STILL shorter.

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non_amos Sun Jul 31, 2011 9:35 pm

FACEPALM INDEED!!!!! Rolling Eyes

EDIT TO ADD: Please, somebody quickly, post those images from www.comicbookmovie.com of Batman battling THE HULKING 200-LB. BANE! Man, what a joke!

webhead2006 Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:04 pm

One neat thing I did notice in one of the riot photos, a sign said it was blackgate prision isn't thaat a key dc comics prision?

Comicbookfan-V2 Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:27 pm

non_amos wrote:FACEPALM INDEED!!!!!

EDIT TO ADD: Please, somebody quickly, post those images from www.comicbookmovie.com of Batman battling THE HULKING 200-LB. BANE! Man, what a joke!

Since their so many I'll just link just one! How's this one?

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non_amos Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:30 pm

That's the wrong pic. I was talking about the one where Batman is giving 'Bane' the 'bionic elbow' on the chin & 'Bane' was reeling backwards! Laughing

thecolorsblend Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:00 am

non_amos wrote:Please, somebody quickly, post those images from www.comicbookmovie.com of Batman battling THE HULKING 200-LB. BANE! Man, what a joke!

Comicbookfan-V2 wrote:Since their so many I'll just link just one! How's this one?

Note carefully the positioning of Hardy's feet and those steps relatively to Bale. It's clear that on a level surface standing up straight, Bale would DWARF Hardy. Hell, maybe calling him Dwarfbane from now on is the answer.

Apologist Puncher Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:37 am

Is it just me, or is there GREY in that Bat-Suit?

Take a look at the two-tone colors, and compare it to the guy on the right in the dark jacket.

thecolorsblend Mon Aug 01, 2011 1:56 am

Apologist Puncher wrote:Is it just me, or is there GREY in that Bat-Suit?

Take a look at the two-tone colors, and compare it to the guy on the right in the dark jacket.

I could see that.

Also, the BB outfit was basically a huge piece of black rubber. The outfit from TDK looked more like a blacked body suit with plating attached for armored reinforcement.

The above pic looks like a combination of the two. A single piece of rubber but perhaps with extra plating strategically placed over key joints and vulnerable areas. The cowl attachment also looks to be somewhat modified, though it's hard to be sure.

In fact, it's a little hard to be sure of any of the above but hey...

non_amos Mon Aug 01, 2011 2:05 am

Pic with Batman nailing 'Bane' on the chin please? I know it's futile for me to even try to upload it even if I tried. Nevertheless it really conveys just how laughable this is!

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