10.21-22, Finale (spoilers)

My guess is that the "two hour finale" is two episodes combined. Now, I'm not an Apologist so I won't criticize that, but it should be mentioned anyway.

No problem guys, also ksite has photos up for ep 14. As for finale sure it likely could just be episodes 21 and 22 aired together as finale. But would personally hope it would just be episode 22 offically just 2hrs itself.

I've seen some Apologists suggest (now that reality has FINALLY sunk in) that Routh guest star on Smallville. "It's a fitting tribute to [BJ]" and shit. Am I the only one who doesn't want Blandon the Bartender anywhere near SV? Frankly, the show has enough to do in wrapping up without including that robot.

I don't think we would have to worrry about that. With only 5 episodes left. Not much time left. And I am sure they are finalizing any finale episode stuff now. Since production only two more months and all. I did read before ksite craig has mentioned it is highly unlikely routh would appear. It is just those fans trying to grab hold of any hopeful appearance of routh in any superman thing now that being superman is off for him 100%.

Don't know if you remember this web, but back in late 2007 and through 2008, a few Singerman true believers accepted that Singerman 2- Madame of Swish was never going to happen and so (I shit thee negative) they advocated that Tom Welling be fired from the show and replaced by Blandon and with the continuity retroactively changed to reflect the Donner/Singer continuity.

Never found out if that was supposed to include BJ wearing a maroon pleather jacket and powder blue t-shirts though.

thecolorsblend wrote:I've seen some Apologists suggest (now that reality has FINALLY sunk in) that Routh guest star on Smallville. "It's a fitting tribute to [BJ]" and shit. Am I the only one who doesn't want Blandon the Bartender anywhere near SV? Frankly, the show has enough to do in wrapping up without including that robot.

On ONE hand, you have a point. On the OTHER hand, why not?! I mean, who says that if Brandon 'BJ' Routhman guest stars on Smallville that it necessarily has to be to HIS advantage? It COULD be played up to EMBARRASS him! Have you ever seen ZACK & MIRI MAKE A PORNO? Ol' BJ shows his TRUE potential there, eh?! Why not play up something like that? It doesn't even have to be that. It COULD be that he's like a 'Bizarro' type of character who WELLING puts down as an IMPOSTER & sends him packing! Final statements could be to the effect that he just wasn't 'for real'.

See what I mean? Works like a charm & it ALSO gives duh apologists their 'fanboys wet dream moment'!

I think I do somewhat recall that. No way it would have ecer happened. Just like the crazy fans who always thought chloe is/would become lois lane.

I was hoping to seeing Welling kick Ruth's ass.

But now, fuck him. He's only remembered as the failed Superman. Which has a bright side being that it takes the heat off Reeve for the much maligned "Superman IV" (Which is STILL truer to Superman than Singerman could ever hope to be)

Funnily enough, Smallville has been full of tributes to the Donner era. Real heartfelt tributes and appearances by the much loved actors from those films. Again, Singerman was supposed to be a continuation of the Donnerverse, and after viewing it was clear it was only because it's director said so. A handful of sheep bought it.

I love Jack Larson and Noell Neil*. But fuck them too, they're tainted by Singerman. Forget anything remotely connected to Singerman and let's just remember and celebrate Superman's high points....like Smallville has been doing for years.

*I think it speaks volumes that even Teri Hatcher & Dean Cain have appeared in Smallville and NOBODY connected to Singerman (even the original Lois Lane) has been given a look in on Smallville..........

...how's this...

Since posting that above thought earlier today, I've put my feet up and and fired up the big screen. Thought I'd start again working my way through season 9 on Bluray and couldn't believe a line from Clark to Chloe.

"She's hiding something, but I refuse to use my powers to spy on Lois"

Nope, nothing like Singerman!

TV Line wrote:A HERO RISES | As Clark enters this final phase of his journey, “The insecurity is gone,” says Souders, “which is good. But the way that some of the world has turned -– and certainly the fact that some people, his compadres so to speak, have turned against him -– has taken its toll on him.” So a critical aspect to the coming arcs will require silencing the zealots behind the Vigilante Registration Act and keeping the Suicide Squad in check. “There is a very hopeful ending to all of it,” Souders assures with a smile.

SUPREME MAKEOVER | The none-too-small issue of Clark concealing his everyday identity as he evolves into a super savior gets addressed during these next episodes, with big thanks to Lois (Erica Durance). “She’s kind of all over him as far as how he’s dressing, what his hair looks like… but for a very, very good reason,” says Souders. As for the precise why now and how of the makeover, Souders teases: “Stay tuned — but if you’re a hardcore Superman fan, you’ll enjoy the ride. It’s a lot of fun.”

http://www.tvline.com/2011/02/smallville-preview-waiting-for-superman

Neat stuff all around, I think.

Nice tvline interview. Also ksite reporting other news episodes booster and kent have switched order. Kent will be 17 and booster 18. Also episode 19 and 20 titles are now online 19: dominion 20: prophecy.

2hr finale now confirmed:
www.tvline.com/2011/02/scoop-smallville-finale-takes-flight-may-13/

I hope once offical press it out/producers will state if its just airing episodes 21/22 together. Or if its a true finale episode will be produced/shot as 2hrs. I definately want it to be a true single episode that is two hrs long.

webhead2006 wrote:2hr finale now confirmed:
www.tvline.com/2011/02/scoop-smallville-finale-takes-flight-may-13/

I hope once offical press it out/producers will state if its just airing episodes 21/22 together. Or if its a true finale episode will be produced/shot as 2hrs. I definately want it to be a true single episode that is two hrs long.

If it wasn't written and designed to flow as an 80 minute "single episode"/movie, odds are it will feel like two episodes stitched together... because ultimately that's what it is. Absolute Justice wasn't originally written to be broadcast the way it was but only whiners had a problem with that.

Ya I wouldn't mind if it is episode 21 and 22 together. But I rather it be a single produced two hr episode. Hopefully souders/peterson sets it straight what it is really.

After a decade I'd like to see some sort of retrospective celebratory documentary. I think the show deserves that sort of recognition from the network.

Again, it's only the longest running live action incarnation of Superman ever. It's probably the longest running superhero based TV show???

Father Finian wrote:Again, it's only the longest running live action incarnation of Superman ever. It's probably the longest running superhero based TV show???

You are correct sir, and in "total episodes" it will be the longest running sci-fi show in American TV history.

This is interesting. I can't think of another time when two whore sites have reported conflicting information. In short, K-Site is reporting that the finale will be titled... Finale.

KryptonSite wrote:Episode #10-21 & #10-22: "Finale" (Parts 1 and 2)

May 13, 2011

UPDATED 2/7/11: The CW has announced that Smallville will conclude with a two-hour series finale on May 13, 2011.
- KryptonSite has learned that the series' 217th and 218th episodes which make up the two-hour finale went under the production names "Finale, Part 1" and "Finale, Part 2"... which means that last Smallville title is not "Superman," not "Metropolis," but.... "Finale." It's sure to be a good one!
URL- http://www.kryptonsite.com/smallvillespoilers.htm

But...

Ausiello wrote:Question: Please tell me Smallville‘s two-hour series finale is not going to be titled “Finale Part 1″ and “Finale Part 2,” as is being reported. —April
Ausiello: I’m 97 percent certain those are placeholders. My advice? Chillax!

URL- http://www.tvline.com/2011/02/ask-ausiello-spoilers-on-true-blood-glee-gossip-girl-community-house-and-more/

So, um, which is it? Craig Byrne's source for the finale title is likely either Peterson, Souders or possibly Welling since it's unlikely that any cast members (besides probably Welling) have access to the script yet. Plus, Al Gough himself was Craig's primary source back in the old Goughlar days, although he also got info from the "Tollin" in Tollin-Robbins as well as Allison Mack, John Glover or Annette O'Toole... but, again, cast members likely don't have access to the script yet. So all in all, I'd argue Craig's source (Peterson or Souders) is bullet proof.

Except... I've never seen Ausiello be wrong about much. If he says the title ain't finalized yet... well, normally I'd take him at his word, except I have no clue who his source is for this (or anything he posts, SV-related or not).

And before you play the "production company must be leaking disinformation" card... don't. Really don't. Craig Byrne is on the payroll. K-Site is an official part of the Millar-Gough Ink marketing budget. If Byrne posts something on his site concerning SV that isn't labeled a rumor, you're supposed to be able to take his word to the bank. I know for a fact he doesn't post every single spoiler he has access to (for example, Terrence Stamp voicing Jor-El in season 2; that was leaked maybe nowhere but certainly not on K-Site. I only knew about it because Byrne himself told me who it was going to be waaaaaay before the episode aired) but what he does post is intended to be reliable. K-Site is recognized to have some kind of legitimacy (although some people think it's "just another fansite"). If something is posted on that page, it has to be true or else fans will sit up and say "hey, those fuckers LIED to me!"

But... again, Ausiello is rarely wrong too.

The only thing I can think of is that, much like Absolute Justice, the finale will have a "unified" title. "Society" and "Legends" are jointly called "Absolute Justice". So maybe "Finale Part 1" and "Finale Part 2" will be jointly called... something else.

Anyway. Weird.

Ya it would be great on season ten dvd/bluray set to have some sort of retrospective doc on it. With cast/crew and all that. As for finale titles being finale does work with it going full circle to pilot. But ya it will be interesting if the titles change between now/airingck they are probably just starting to write them now I figure. With shoting in late march as we know. So anything could change. We know a few titles have changed before airing.

Some pretty good news to report:
Http://Gregbeeman.blogspot.com
beeman has offically announce that he is directing the finale. As since its been revealed its a 2hr deal, james marshall will direct first half and beeman will do the 2nd half. Very great news there. I was hoping he do the finale. And with marshall doing the other half happy there.

Well we now know what's up with the lucas grabeel lex clone:
http://tvline.com/2011/02/smallville-exclusive-first-look/

Somehow, "retarded" just doesn't seem to cover it. And lest I sound like one of those Apologist douchebags from the Younis page, I'm obviously a huge SV fan.

Sure we don't really need to do conner kent. But hey it fits with all the darn cloning storyline for this season. I am curious to see where they go with conner. Will he appear post scion. Could he if he is in kent go with clark to alt world if clark goes back to it in that episode. And conner stays there to give that world a hero to be the light. Or if he does show up post scion. Maybe appear in finale, and he/clark/maybe kara(if she doesn't show up in 19/20) and have them take on darkseid. Head on, while ollie and probably bc go to take out desaad/granny/furies. Then they could either have conner live or get killed by darkseid/sacrifice himself so clark survives and is able to defeat darkseid.

webhead2006 wrote:Sure we don't really need to do conner kent.

Damn right.

But hey it fits with all the darn cloning storyline for this season.

Who gives a shit? You could probably find a way to work in the Brainiac possession of Lex from Whatever Happened To The Man Of Tomorrow storyline. That doesn't make it a good fucking idea, now does it?

I am curious to see where they go with conner.

I'm not. He's a fucking wasteland of a character. He was cool when he was first introduced back in Reign of the Supermen but after all that Kon-El/Connor Kent/clone-of-Lex-and-Superman bullshit as well as his powers being a precise duplicate of Superman's, I lost all interest.

And conner stays there to give that world a hero to be the light. Or if he does show up post scion. Maybe appear in finale, and he/clark/maybe kara(if she doesn't show up in 19/20) and have them take on darkseid. Head on, while ollie and probably bc go to take out desaad/granny/furies. Then they could either have conner live or get killed by darkseid/sacrifice himself so clark survives and is able to defeat darkseid.

tl;dr

Ok colors, well I don't know much on conner myself then reading online about. But ya we all have our opinions on things we like/dislike, so I will just leave it as is. What ever happens hopefully it will be a good story.

Like Colors, I liked the character in 'Reign of the Supermen'. Actually I liked the entire 'Death of Superman' saga. I was even buying the series regularly at that point & avidly reading it. However, as time wore on, I quit buying the comics again, for the most part anyway, only to return later for things like 'Infinite Crisis' before leaving again.

My point? I may not have been avidly reading when Connor's complete details were revealed, I'm unsure. I do know he was a clone in the original story. However, I recall hearing and/or reading at some point that 'Conner Kent' was a 'union of Clark & Lex' DNA' & immediately do you know how CREEPY that sounded?! So Conner has '2 dads' huh?! It went beyond just sounding gay but downright creepy! Just who are they letting write this crap, someone with a 'PC' agenda?!

Colors, if you read 'Infinite Crisis' you probably saw where 'Superboy-Prime' basically destroyed Conner right before Connor made a last-ditch effort to annihilate him, which obviously didn't work. But even though 'Connor' was supposed to have died, I think DC brought him back? Ironically 'Conner' seems to really appeal to duh apologists, but what else is new, huh?