Re: Marvel's 'The Avengers' Official Box-Office Thread

[non_amos]

I don't really feel like researching it this late where I'm at but I just had a thought similar to what we've already wondered anyway. I just wonder exactly how duh apologists & Nolanites really feel about this film? I don't mean one or two who may have already been cited online but rather in general? For example, if I were to take at trip over to Eunuchland, what would the general consensus be? Yea or nay? I say in the coming days & weeks, even months, that we really keep an eye on this. It could provide us with some much-needed comic relief!

[thecolorsblend]

I don't really feel like researching it this late where I'm at but I just had a thought similar to what we've already wondered anyway. I just wonder exactly how duh apologists & Nolanites really feel about this film? I don't mean one or two who may have already been cited online but rather in general? For example, if I were to take at trip over to Eunuchland, what would the general consensus be? Yea or nay? I say in the coming days & weeks, even months, that we really keep an eye on this. It could provide us with some much-needed comic relief!

Tough to know. The Eunuch page had a blurb about SV Season 11 #3 and some morons couldn't figure out that it is referring to the print version. But anywho, the trajectory of the conversation eventually included Avengers and TDKRises. One shmuck opined that he just wasn't sure that TDKRises was going to outgross Avengers anymore because of all the attention and adoration being heaped upon Avengers.

I think Apologists tend to suffer from conventional thinking... or, in other words, group think. They start from the premise that because TDK was massively successful, TDKRises will inevitably be as well. I think a lot of us around here are nowhere near convinced of that (which is why we were ever Realists to begin with, btw). In the category of "better late than never", there seems to be a dawning awareness that (A) Avengers doesn't look half bad and (B) it's probably to outperform TDKRises as far as box office goes.

Keep in mind though, we're talking about a segment of fandom whose high watermarks for superhero cinema revolve entirely around the most boring and/or most self-conscious superhero films ever made. Their fingers are nowhere near the pulse of jackshit.

[thecolorsblend]

Something else. Since this is the most active thread, figure I'll post it here.

Today, my friends and I did what I called The Mighty Marvel Movie Marathon in order to get ready for seeing Avengers at midnight on Thursday- Iron Man, The Incredible Hulk, Iron Man 2, Thor and Captain America. A few things. Iron Man 2 is better than it gets credit for. Thor is good on a third viewing. It holds up (and I won't pretend that part of that isn't my newer appreciation for Hiddleton's respect for the material). But my favorite? Honestly, it's Cap. Cap plays best to my sensibilities. It's a pretty much a "feel good" story mostly, it's got plenty of action, plenty of character, plenty of everything that makes it work for me. I was as cynical as anybody (and more cynical than most) when Evans was first announced as Cap but boy was I wrong! The guy's performance holds up in a big way. The movie in general holds up. Thus far, it's the best of the bunch, as far as I'm concerned.

And now I'm ready for Avengers on Thursday night, yee haw!

[webhead2006]

I plan to do marathon tomorrow, or Thursday prior to seeing the avengers. But another article on maarvel's avengers rolling great overseas, and is expected to break 500mill by weekend:
http://m.hollywoodreporter.com/news/box-office-shocker-avengers-pacing-500-million-globally-318568

Box Office Shocker: 'Avengers' Pacing to Fly Past $500 Mil Globally by Sunday

10:49 AM PDT 5/1/2012 by Pamela McClintock

Joss Whedon's superhero pic continues to do bang-up business overseas, where its total through Monday was already $218 million; the tentpole opens in North America at midnight Thursday.

Disney and Marvel Studios appear to have a runaway hit on their hands.

The Avengers, which only began rolling out at the international box office late last week, is easily on track to become the most successful title produced in-house by Marvel Studios, besting the $623 million worldwide gross of 2010's Iron Man 2.

Directed by Joss Whedon, Avengers is doing massive business at the international box office, earning $218 million in its first six days through Monday and breaking records across the globe. And the 3D pic, which unites many of Marvel's marquee superheroes, could enjoy weekend-like business Tuesday because of the May Day holiday in many foreign markets.

PHOTOS: Avengers Premiere in Los Angeles

At this pace, Avengers' foreign gross likely will grow to $350 million-$400 million by Sunday, boosted by its debut in Russia and China this weekend.

Avengers opens at midnight Thursday in North America, where it's widely expected to debut north of $150 million, based on the strength of prerelease tracking. Bullish box office observers believe Avengers could finish the weekend with a global gross well north of $500 million, if not closer to $600 million.

The superhero tentpole is the first Marvel Studios film marketed and distributed by Disney following the company's acquisition of Marvel.

Last summer, Marvel's Thor grossed $449.3 million worldwide, while Captain America: The First Avenger earned $368.6 million. The first Iron Man earned $585 million globally in 2008; all three characters are featured in Avengers.

[non_amos]

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/170489-marvels-the-avengers-reaches-2811m-overseas-in-8-days

Marvel's The Avengers Reaches $281.1M Overseas in 8 Days

by SuperHeroHype
May 03, 2012

Walt Disney Pictures and Marvel Studios announced this morning that Marvel's The Avengers earned another $20.6 million internationally on Wednesday, May 2nd. That puts the overseas total at $281.1 million so far.

In just eight days of release, Marvel's The Avengers has already passed the total international box office for Captain America: The First Avenger ($192 million), Iron Man ($267 million) and Thor ($268 million). Iron Man 2 earned $311.5 million internationally which the film will easily pass.

The action adventure opens in North America at midnight tonight!

I saw this right before I went to work but didn't have time to post it. I assume that some of you guys are at the midnight premier as I type this. I had to take Friday night unfortunately. Anyway, before the film even opened in the States it has already grossed nearly 300 million overseas! Certainly THE AVENGERS will rule the summer?! I'll be rudely surprised if TDKR even comes close!

[webhead2006]

It will definately rule the summer. I can't wait to see what the us opening numbers are.

[webhead2006]

Estimated midnight numbers:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304743704577384082401673186.html

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BY ERICA ORDEN Superhero action film "The Avengers" grossed $18.7 million from midnight Thursday screenings in North America, according to early studio estimates, putting it on track to post big numbers at the box office during its domestic opening weekend.

[non_amos]

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/170503-the-avengers-makes-805-million-its-opening-day

The Avengers Makes $80.5 Million Its Opening Day!

by SuperHeroHype
May 05, 2012

Walt Disney Pictures is reporting an opening day of $80.5 million for Marvel's The Avengers in 4,349 theaters nationwide, building upon the $18.7 million from midnight screenings the night before. If this number sticks, it will be the second-biggest opening day for a movie ever, following behind the $91 million grossed by Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 2 its opening day last summer.

In our report yesterday on the movie's midnight grosses, it didn't seem like The Avengers was going to be setting any records other than May opening, because it earned less at midnight than last month's The Hunger Games, but what a difference a full day makes. The extraordinary business the movie brought in Friday is a strong indicator that the movie may indeed break the current opening weekend held by "Deathly Hallows." In fact, we could now see the movie opening somewhere between $170 and 180 million, which would completely demolish the $169 million made by the current record holder.

We certainly know better than to "count our chickens" and breaking that record will mainly depend on whether that Friday business holds up through Saturday and Sunday--the film's rare A+ CinemaScore is a good sign it will have legs. Either way, Marvel Studios' first movie distributed and marketed through Walt Disney is already looking to be the biggest movie released by either, and this puts even more pressure on Christopher Nolan's The Dark Knight Rises and its release later this summer.

Internationally, the movie added another $30 million yesterday, having also opened in Russia and China, and globally, the movie has grossed $415 million, which means that it may have already made back its reported $220 million production budget.

I put the entire article in BOLD because even though I intended just to highlight certain points, it turned out that the entire article is a great point! Take that Nolan & Nolanites!

[thecolorsblend]

Dear Chris Nolan,

Thanks for showing up.

Love,

Joss Whedon and the Avengers crew

[webhead2006]

Woot woot for a very strong opening day. It is so going to have legs and run hard with them. We should be getting some good numbers for final weekend/first full week.

[non_amos]

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/170507-the-avengers-sets-new-opening-weekend-record-with-2003m

The Avengers Sets New Opening Weekend Record with $200.3M!

by SuperHeroHype
May 06, 2012

Walt Disney Pictures is projecting that Marvel's The Avengers will earn an estimated $200.3 million at the domestic box office this weekend from 4,349 locations, making it the highest-grossing debut of all time! The previous record of $169.2 million was held by Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 2 last year. "The Avengers" averaged $46,063 per theater in North America.

The movie has become the fastest to reach the $200 million mark domestically in three days.

"The Avengers," which received an A+ CinemaScore, will cross the $600 million global box office mark today after just 12 days of release! The film added another $151.5 million this weekend internationally and has reached $441.5 million overseas from 52 territories. The movie's estimated global total after today is $641.8 million!

The global box office for "The Avengers" has already surpassed the global box office totals of Captain America: The First Avenger ($364 million), Thor ($449 million), Iron Man ($585 million) and Iron Man 2 ($624 million).

"The Avengers" has surpassed the international box office totals of Captain America: The First Avenger ($192 million), Iron Man ($266.7 million), Thor ($268.3 million) and Iron Man 2 ($311.5 million). The film had the biggest opening weekend of all time in Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, Ecuador, Central America, Peru, Bolivia, Hong Kong, Malaysia, New Zealand, Philippines. In Russia, the film earned $17.9 million.

I don't have time to comment at the moment but..............................................................

'NUFF SAID!!!!!

[webhead2006]

Now that is how you smash box office records. It will probably be awhile to we see that broke. And we are already well into passing a billion in probably another week/two weeks.

[thecolorsblend]

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/170507-the-avengers-sets-new-opening-weekend-record-with-2003m

The Avengers Sets New Opening Weekend Record with $200.3M!

by SuperHeroHype
May 06, 2012

Walt Disney Pictures is projecting that Marvel's The Avengers will earn an estimated $200.3 million at the domestic box office this weekend from 4,349 locations, making it the highest-grossing debut of all time! The previous record of $169.2 million was held by Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 2 last year. "The Avengers" averaged $46,063 per theater in North America.

The movie has become the fastest to reach the $200 million mark domestically in three days.

"The Avengers," which received an A+ CinemaScore, will cross the $600 million global box office mark today after just 12 days of release! The film added another $151.5 million this weekend internationally and has reached $441.5 million overseas from 52 territories. The movie's estimated global total after today is $641.8 million!

The global box office for "The Avengers" has already surpassed the global box office totals of Captain America: The First Avenger ($364 million), Thor ($449 million), Iron Man ($585 million) and Iron Man 2 ($624 million).

"The Avengers" has surpassed the international box office totals of Captain America: The First Avenger ($192 million), Iron Man ($266.7 million), Thor ($268.3 million) and Iron Man 2 ($311.5 million). The film had the biggest opening weekend of all time in Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, Ecuador, Central America, Peru, Bolivia, Hong Kong, Malaysia, New Zealand, Philippines. In Russia, the film earned $17.9 million.

I don't have time to comment at the moment but..............................................................

'NUFF SAID!!!!!

Fucking hell! $200 million in one weekend?!

Put another way, Avengers did in one fucking weekend what Singerman needed six months to do.

[non_amos]

7/20/2012

THE DARK KNIGHT RISES

[Apologist Puncher]

I don't really feel like researching it this late where I'm at but I just had a thought similar to what we've already wondered anyway. I just wonder exactly how duh apologists & Nolanites really feel about this film? I don't mean one or two who may have already been cited online but rather in general? For example, if I were to take at trip over to Eunuchland, what would the general consensus be? Yea or nay? I say in the coming days & weeks, even months, that we really keep an eye on this. It could provide us with some much-needed comic relief!

This is what I saw transpire on that retard-fest comicbookmovie.com:

Marvel fans calling out Nolanites for their boasts of box-office dominance, and potential 'Avengers' "flopability". Two sad, pathetic Nolanites come in and starts saying "The box office doesn't matter, it's score on Rotten Tomatoes does!!", and they then point to TDK's 94%. With me so far? Ok, then a Marvel fan points out that 'Iron Man' has the EXACT SAME SCORE as TDK on RT. To which same Nolanites CHANGE to "No, what matters is how many OSCARS were won!!".

So as you can see, first it was TDKR is going to destroy Avengers at the BO. Then the numbers start coming in, and all of a sudden THAT doesn't matter, it's score on a site owned by Warner Bros. does. Then, when that doesn't work, it now goes to Oscars, even though one was given because of a tragic death ONLY.

Nolanites are the new Apologists in every way, shape and form.

[thecolorsblend]

So as you can see, first it was TDKR is going to destroy Avengers at the BO. Then the numbers start coming in, and all of a sudden THAT doesn't matter, it's score on a site owned by Warner Bros. does. Then, when that doesn't work, it now goes to Oscars, even though one was given because of a tragic death ONLY.

I love watching a Nolanite squirm. It long ago stopped being a sport for Apologists but Nolanites have yet to get their full comeuppance.

Nolanites are the new Apologists in every way, shape and form.

I'm not sure Nolanites were ever not Apologists, actually. Most Nolanites I can think of have some level of appreciation for Singerman. "The airplane sequence wasn't too bad", "I love the Donner tie-ins", "[BJ] should've been brought back for the reboot", etc. I'm starting to wonder that splitting the groups apart might have always been a false dichotomy.

[Apologist Puncher]

I love watching a Nolanite squirm. It long ago stopped being a sport for Apologists but Nolanites have yet to get their full comeuppance.

Kind of hard to have a gunfight when the opposite side not only doesn't have bullets, but don't even have the GUNS....

I'm not sure Nolanites were ever not Apologists, actually. Most Nolanites I can think of have some level of appreciation for Singerman. "The airplane sequence wasn't too bad", "I love the Donner tie-ins", "[BJ] should've been brought back for the reboot", etc. I'm starting to wonder that splitting the groups apart might have always been a false dichotomy.

I guess I didn't pay much attention to Nolanites up until now.

My bad.

[non_amos]

You could call them a new breed of apologists, an off-shoot, if you will. Like how the Romulans branched off from the Vulcans, just not as cool though.

[webhead2006]

Does it really even matter score on rt. That can change wwith user edits right? I rather just go by forum posts, and box office numbers on success of a film.

[non_amos]

All I know is, TDKR is not gonna be the 'shoe-in' for winning the summer like duh critics & Nolanites thought it'd be! It's a very steep climb from here, Mr. Nolan. Even TDK didn't open this well & it had the 'perfect storm' of factors surrounding it. Whatcha gonna do, Mr. Nolan, when THE HULK runs wild on you?! Whatcha gonna do?!

[webhead2006]

Great to see the final numbers end up higher then the expected totals from Sunday. And great to see how much it has made totally worldwide. I definately think we can hit a bill very soon.

[thecolorsblend]

I love watching a Nolanite squirm. It long ago stopped being a sport for Apologists but Nolanites have yet to get their full comeuppance.

Kind of hard to have a gunfight when the opposite side not only doesn't have bullets, but don't even have the GUNS....

I'm not sure Nolanites were ever not Apologists, actually. Most Nolanites I can think of have some level of appreciation for Singerman. "The airplane sequence wasn't too bad", "I love the Donner tie-ins", "[BJ] should've been brought back for the reboot", etc. I'm starting to wonder that splitting the groups apart might have always been a false dichotomy.

I guess I didn't pay much attention to Nolanites up until now.

My bad.

My remarks are mostly based on limited observation. Apologists are sometimes fun to mess with for sport but I just don't have any tolerance for Nolanites so I avoid them like the plague.

TCB- "No matter how good a job, Ledger's Joker is the Joker in name only. You know that, right?"
Nolanite- "He exemplified the true spirit of the character!"
TCB- "Uh, no he didn't. The Joker would never in a million years say 'and I thought my jokes were bad.' Not even as a throwaway line. He's psychologically incapable of ever saying those words."
Nolanite- "Ledger won an Oscar for his bravura performance in this unforgettable film."
TCB- "Not really my point. In fact, it's the complete opposite of my point. That portrayal of the Joker borders on being the polar opposite of everything the character has been up to in the comics for at least twenty or thirty years."
Nolanite- "Nolan adapted the core essence!"

And so on. As you say, when they don't even address the point at hand, what the hell are you left with? And this whole Burtonite vs. Nolanite shit? I guarandamntee you it wasn't the so-called Burtonites who set up that dichotomy.

Anyway. If there is a difference between Nolanites and Apologists, my best guess is that Nolanites tend to have a somewhat stronger command of language, spelling, grammar, etc. But otherwise, they aren't too far apart in terms of rhetoric, argumentation and all those things.

[non_amos]

A frog:



A toad:



Related species. Similar yet different.

Now how's that for an Apologist vs. Nolanite analogy?

[non_amos]

Although Webhead made reference to it, I think it's worth actually posting:

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/170517-the-avengers-opens-bigger-than-expected-with-2074-million

The Avengers Opens Bigger Than Expected with $207.4 Million!

by SuperHeroHype
May 07, 2012

Marvel's The Avengers has posted the biggest domestic opening weekend of all time with $207.4 million for May 4-6, The Walt Disney Studios announced today. The previous record of $169.2 million was held by Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows - Part 2 last year. The Super Hero team-up crossed the $600 million threshold at the global box office in 12 days, and its cumulative worldwide box office gross is an estimated $654.8 million.

"'Marvel's The Avengers' is something we've been carefully building toward since we began production on the first 'Iron Man' film, and it is quite rewarding for all of us that 'The Avengers' is appealing around the globe to both passionate fans and general audiences alike. It is a testament to all involved with this film that audiences across the board are embracing the film in this record-setting way," said Marvel's The Avengers producer Kevin Feige.

“Joss Whedon, Kevin Feige and the whole Marvel team have done something really incredible with 'The Avengers,'” said Dave Hollis, Executive Vice President, Theatrical Exhibition Sales and Distribution, The Walt Disney Studios. “From the super-talented cast to the spectacular visual effects, it’s a grand slam, and we’re proud to be a part of this history-making film.”

In just three days, Marvel's The Avengers is the fastest movie to reach $200 million domestically. The domestic debut kicked off Friday, May 4, and marks the second-highest single-day take of all time at $80.8 million, followed by record-breaking days on Saturday ($69.5 million) and Sunday ($57 million). Moviegoers gave Marvel’s The Avengers a rare and perfect A+ CinemaScore.

Marvel's The Avengers began opening internationally April 25 and has set records as the biggest opening weekend of all time in Mexico, Brazil, Argentina, Ecuador, Central America, Peru, Bolivia, Hong Kong, Malaysia, New Zealand, Philippines, and United Arab Emirates. It opened in Russia May 3 with $17.9 million to make it the biggest Marvel opening weekend ever. It debuted in China on May 5 with $18 million over two days. Marvel's The Avengers has now opened in all major markets except Israel (May 10), Poland (May 11), and Japan (August 17).

"The Avengers" has also surpassed IMAX's domestic opening weekend box office record by generating $15.3 million of the film's record-setting domestic gross, resulting in an IMAX per-screen average of approximately $56,000 in 275 digital IMAX theaters. Internationally, the film generated approximately $6.1 million over the weekend in 176 IMAX theaters, of which 80 were debut runs. This brings IMAX's international total to $16 million. The film also set a new IMAX three-day opening weekend global box office record with $21.4 million, bringing the worldwide gross to $31.3 million in IMAX theatres worldwide since its global release on April 25.

The film's successful debut comes a month after Marvel and Disney announced that a sequel to 2011's Captain America: The First Avenger will be released April 4, 2014. A sequel to last summer's Thor is scheduled for release November 15, 2013, and the third installment of the hit "Iron Man" series, which has earned over $1.2 billion worldwide, will arrive in theaters May 3, 2013.

Marvel's The Avengers is the first Marvel Studios film to be marketed and distributed by The Walt Disney Studios.

Man! This just keeps getting better & better! Mini-Bane doesn't stand a chance!

[thecolorsblend]

One nice legacy I think Avengers will leave us with is a new Marvel Studios movie coming along every year now. You've got Iron Man and Thor in 2013, Captain America in 2014 and, hey, very possibly a Ruffalo Hulk film in 2015 (bring it on!). And shit, Avengers 2 in 2016? The constant rotations will probably keep everything fresh for audiences.

And this is not to speak of the likely spillover effect the success of the Avengers is likely to have on the individual franchises. My guess is that Cap 2, Thor 2, Iron Man 3, etc, all may be more successful thanks to the Avengers connection than if they'd been offered up as individual features/universes.

Right now, Marvel Studios is in a GREAT place and they've EARNED every last bit of their success.

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