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Post  superman1938 on Sun Jun 23, 2013 6:40 pm

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AliceTheBrit Joshua Melo • 2 hours ago




SPOILER... He told anyone who would listen (especially military personnel) he was from Kansas. Lois tracked him to Kansas. Zod tracked him to Kansas. People in Kansas knew a kid named Clark Kent did some super human stuff. So as an adult Clark Kent without bothering to change his name (yet he does when he somehow forges documents to join a high level military expedition... I can't even apply to McDonald's without a background check... WTF script writers...) he gets a reporter job to "hide among us." Yeah... not a secret identity, buddy. Plus, the whole world was witness to what Superman could do. He used all his powers. In broad daylight. He saved humanity. So why all of a sudden does he feel the need to only do good in secret? This movie was pretty awful.







  • LostInAmerica AliceTheBrit • an hour ago




    Yeah... Superman was pretty shady with his moral code in this film. He was using fake id's and forging documents and stealing clothes and then gets a reporter job with no credentials or schooling or experience whatsoever. All I learned was being bad pays off as long you're kind of handsome and muscular. MOS was the worst.






  • Johnsonite AliceTheBrit • an hour ago




    Or how about the Kryptonian spaceship (now Fortress of Solitude) found in the ice that flies away in front of dozens of scientists and military people... to never get mentioned again. Then Supes destroys a government satellite trying to track where he goes... this is supposed to explain away how the Fortress stays hidden. Yet the spaceship (Fortress) was first discovered by ground based machinery that pinged an anomaly. All anyone would really need to do was walk around with a metal detector and find another anomaly... and BAM you're in the Fortress of Solitude. Destroying the satellite did nothing, Superman. Or how about Superman's super hearing, even shown developing as a child... yet he doesn't hear Lois clumsily walking in behind him when he first enters the spaceship??? This movie really is awful.







So I guess apologists don't just exist on duh Homopage?

Look. All these 'pricks' complaining about the film, Superman's character, whatever. To tell you the truth, many of them probably do prefer Singerman with all it's deep emo emotiveness. Too bad their support didn't translate into decent box office! And duh critics just want more Donnerverse. They're thinking 'swell'. They want kitties rescued from trees but heaven forbid Superman actually punch someone. And they also seem to be applying the moral code of Superman that Christopher Reeve displayed & are disappointed that somehow Cavill's Superman doesn't have the same regard for things. Well, it's like they say, this ain't your father's Superman! Maybe the film ain't perfect but it's light-years ahead of Singerman & is one of the best comics films ever. Oh, here's a thought. They're bashing on it because Zack Snyder directed it. I should've seen that one coming!

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I am shocked that these baffoons thought that this movie lacked a moral code....but they embrace the stalker, peeping tom , and dead beat dad of Singerman ......man these idiots should get a life
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Re: Man of Steel Box Office Watch

Post  thecolorsblend on Sun Jun 23, 2013 11:10 pm

non_amos wrote:http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=superman2012.htm

Total Lifetime Grosses
Domestic: $210,006,000   74.1%
Foreign: $73,300,000   25.9%


Worldwide: $283,306,000 
I don't think this is totally accurate because I read that with the foreign it's really about 398 million:
Yes, let's talk about that, shall we? It looks like the international figure is still the estimate from/before Friday, 06.21.2013; MOS has opened in other markets since then. Observe:

Deadline wrote:SUNDAY 11 AM UPDATE: The Superman reboot continues as a super-hit internationally. Here and overseas, Warner Bros’ and Legendary Pictures’ holdover 3D Man Of Steel (4,207 theaters in the widest release) went into this weekend as still the big #1 leader in the worldwide marketplace. And then Superman had to battle the zombies from World War Z through today. MOS broadened out to 52 markets outside of the U.S. and Canada and now has amassed an international cume of $188.3M. With $210M from its domestic gross in just 11 days, this third Superman franchise now has a huge worldwide total of $398.3M. That includes nearly $35M on exactly 600 worldwide IMAX screens, including the $3.2M opening weekend in China where IMAX screens represent 12.5% of the country’s movie gross. The pic has played very strong throughout Asia (see Korean poster) and, in China alone, grosses were an outstanding $25.5M from roughly 5,631 screens, taking a lion’s share of the market. Opening day took almost 80% marketshare for Warner Bros’ 2nd highest opening day behind only the Harry Potter finale.

URL- http://www.deadline.com/2013/06/man-of-steel-speeds-to-345-6m-worldwide-box-office-in-first-9-days/


$210 in the US and $398 worldwide. The one area that Man of Steel hasn't already defeated Singerman is in international receipts as currently the MOS has an estimated $188.3 million whereas Singerman earned $191 million worldwide.

Do you really think Singerman's "lead" internationally is going to last very long?

So let's recap, shall we? MOS has pretty much already accomplished in 11 days what Singerman needed four months to do.

Show's over, people. Man of Steel is a hit while Singerman is, was and will always be a big dud.

James Stocks wrote:And so it just passed SR's entire domestic gross. Two weeks, numbers do not lie, this is a winner.
Yes indeedy. Couldn't be happier. We did it!! WE WON!!

James Stocks wrote:With the success of MOS, how do you guys feel about the marketing? I remember thinking how lackluster it was, even SR had more exposure, yet it clearly paid off for MOS.
I felt pretty much the same way. I've read other people say that WB chose to wait to focus their marketing until the three'ish month lead up and save the majority of their energy for the final month push for the film. If you dig through the archives, I even suggested that WB's heart wasn't truly in MOS. I'm not prepared to recant that but they obviously had a strategy with the film and just as obviously it paid off. So they proved me wrong about this. I've not followed every single bit of the marketing campaign but I like most of what I saw. Ultimately, what I care about is the director giving his thoughts about the movie (any movie, not just Superman) and there were a lot of Snyder interviews to choose from so that was enjoyable for me.

In the main, I'm really happy with how things have gone.


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Re: Man of Steel Box Office Watch

Post  thecolorsblend on Sun Jun 23, 2013 11:16 pm

Oh, one other thing. Steve Wright is claiming that WB had secured $170 million in product placement before so much as one frame of film was shot. If true, that mitigates a lot of Man of Steel's budget from the outset. That's a gigantic shot in the arm for profitability.

Mind you, Apologists never know wtf they're talking about so I'm not sure I should trust that figure.

EDIT- Seems he was right.

Star Pulse wrote:'Man Of Steel' Has Already Made $170 Million - In Product Placements
June 10th, 2013 3:07pm EDT | Casey Johnson By: Casey Johnson

The latest superman movie has already made over $170 million, and it's not even in theaters yet.

The producers behind Man of Steel, the Superman reboot starring Henry Cavill, have made the large sum by simply sneaking in product shots during the film.

Product placement is nothing new - Remember when Spider-Man used Bing to search the web last year? Or when James Bond opted for a Heineken after driving to the bar in his Aston Martin? Even The Lorax, which is about saving the environment and fighting materialism, had an SUV among its corporate partners.

Still, the cash comes from a staggering amount of partners. The Independent reports over 100 companies have lined up to dump cash into Superman's coffers, a number that appears to have set a record.

TIME reports moviegoers can expect Clark Kent to wear a specific brand of eyewear, a peek at Nokia's new phone, and several scenes in a Sears. It's not known yet if Clark will shave using Gillette on-screen, but the razor company is among the corporate partners - as is Carl's Jr. We don't expect to see Superman chowing down on the Super Bacon Cheeseburger during the film, though. At least we hope.

URL- http://www.starpulse.com/news/Casey_Johnson/2013/06/10/man_of_steel_has_already_made_170_mill




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Re: Man of Steel Box Office Watch

Post  non_amos on Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:50 am

Here's an interesting observation. If duh Nolan had actually directed MOS instead of just producing it & had also had a bigger hand in writing the script, I guarantee you that these same people complaining about MOS would instead be heaping it's praises, namely due to duh Nolan. Rduce included. It would've been lumped in with the Bat-trilogy. And then somehow the flashbacks that we saw pertaining to Superman's origin would've been applauded as the best thing since 'Begins'. There's a word for this ya know. It's called hypocrite.
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Re: Man of Steel Box Office Watch

Post  thecolorsblend on Mon Jun 24, 2013 5:27 am

Box Office Mojo has updated their page. That shrieking sound you all just heard was a chorus of dozens of Apologists crying out in terror that Man of Steel surpassed Singerman's worldwide gross with an estimated $398,306,000... and in only 11 days.

Makes me kind of reflective. I mean, Singerman underperformed and Apologists made every excuse for that they could. Here are a few of my favorites in chronological order.

2006- "Wide audiences have comic book burnout. They're tired of superheroes."
2007- "... Except for Spider-Man."
2008- "And Iron Man. Oh, and Batman too."
2009- "Okay, fine, it's SUPERMAN that they don't like!"

I think the Apologists called it a day with that excuse in 2010 when the tenth season of Smallville premiered.
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Re: Man of Steel Box Office Watch

Post  non_amos on Mon Jun 24, 2013 10:18 am

To add to the whole idea apologists have about not needing another origin story, here's an excuse some of them use in a made-up quote:


We've had 10 years of an 'origin' story with Smallville. We don't need one in a film.

Now that 10 years would be interchangeable with 5 years or whatever it happened to be at the moment when such comments were made but I'm certain I've seen that excuse before.

Case in point. Although the fans loved SV and/or Lois & Clark, that doesn't mean the masses necessarily did. Many of them may have never even bothered to tune in but they do go to the movies. So I believe that argument doesn't hold up.


But we had Superman: the Movie! There's no need to update that, that's all the origin you need. And besides, you can't replace John Williams. Just get into the story already.

Or so duh apologists would have you believe. I don't think that argument holds up either. Why? We're talking about a film that had it's 30th anniversary in 2008! FX have also come a long way since then & like some supporters of MOS point out, those films now look 'cheesy'. Even though I liked Lou Feriggno would you still want that Hulk?! I think not. Same with Superman, even more so. For Supes we need more than just crystals & floating Brando heads spouting nonsense about 'the 28 known galaxies'. Superman deserves so much more & if duh apologists can't see that, then they need to do like the guy said, 'stop breathing with their mouths open'. Besides, it's highly questionable how much true fans they are anyway, right?
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Re: Man of Steel Box Office Watch

Post  Comicbookfan-V2 on Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:13 pm

thecolorsblend wrote:Box Office Mojo has updated their page. That shrieking sound you all just heard was a chorus of dozens of Apologists crying out in terror that Man of Steel surpassed Singerman's worldwide gross with an estimated $398,306,000... and in only 11 days.

Well how about that!!! Rolling Eyes  In terms of worldwide gross, what SR was able to achieve in 4 months and 7 days MOS was able to accomplish it in 11 days with the edition of earning $7,000,000 more in the process. And hear I thought after the amount MOS made yesterday it'll take aleast a couple of days to reach $300 million but eventually it actually toke quicker than I thought. I guess we can officially declare that MOS has kicked SR's ass!


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Re: Man of Steel Box Office Watch

Post  thecolorsblend on Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:41 pm

^ That happened on each film's opening weekend. Singerman hit $108 million while MOS grossed $128 million. Already sounds bad, huh? Gets worse. Singerman had a five day opening weekend due to the 4th of July holiday. All MOS had was a standard length opening weekend. So whether it's by sheer numbers or with the opening weekend handicap taken into account, MOS shivved Singerman in the back, broke it off at the handle and then kicked the poser off a cliff.

From that point on, it was always just a matter of time and numbers before MOS beat the piss out of and then almost drowned Singerman. The only area where MOS hasn't outgrossed Singerman (yet) is the international figure. But even there Singerman hit $191 million while MOS is currently at $188 million. Does anybody think MOS won't earn many more millions internationally in the coming weeks?

As bad as all of that is though, it still gets worse when you remember that MOS had $170 million in sponsorship which basically put it into profit after opening day. From WB's standpoint, every dime that's come in since then is gravy.

What's left? So long... Singerman...
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Re: Man of Steel Box Office Watch

Post  James Stocks on Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:46 pm

I think it was kind of ingenious to release MOS on the weekend of Father's Day. What better film than Superman to watch with your pops?
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Re: Man of Steel Box Office Watch

Post  thecolorsblend on Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:54 am

Not sure what's up with Box Office Mojo's MOS page. The URL doesn't seem to work and neither do the links on the home page which point to it or the search tool on the page. My hunch is that the international figure climbed ahead of Singerman's international figure on Monday, 06.24.2013 but it'd sure be nice to see that on their page.
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Re: Man of Steel Box Office Watch

Post  James Stocks on Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:37 am

You can cheat it by looking at the worldwide record of 2013, with MOS currently listed at #6 with $398.4, well past Singer's film, non-adjusted.

Here's a list my friend put up, showing every DC/MARVEL film with the worldwide results adjusted for inflation:

FS wrote:Marvel - THE AVENGERS (2012) - $1,511,757,910
Marvel - IRON MAN 3 (2013) - $1,203,410,000
DC - THE DARK KNIGHT RISES (2012) - $1,084,439,099
DC - THE DARK KNIGHT (2008) - $1,067,995,374.52
DC - SUPERMAN (1978) - $1,042,248,558.83
Marvel - SPIDER-MAN (2002) - $1,039,971,283.76
Marvel - SPIDER-MAN 3 (2007) - $983,120,254.71
Marvel - SPIDER-MAN 2 (2004) - $942,357,397.74
Marvel - THE AMAZING SPIDER-MAN (2012) - $752,216,557
DC - BATMAN (1989) - $750,074,575.06
Marvel - IRON MAN 2 (2010) - $655,509,972.95
Marvel - IRON MAN (2008) - $622,127,429.34
Marvel - X-MEN: THE LAST STAND (2006) - $521,119,573.55
Marvel - X2 (2003) - $506,386,793.35
DC - BATMAN FOREVER (1995) - $500,799,236.14
Marvel - THOR (2011) - $458,735,300.00
DC - SUPERMAN RETURNS (2006) - $443,661,314.50
DC - BATMAN BEGINS (2005) - $435,144,953.44
DC - BATMAN RETURNS (1992) - $430,101,280.76
*DC - MAN OF STEEL (2013) - $398,300,000 -- After first ten days*
Marvel - X-MEN ORIGINS: WOLVERINE (2009) - $398,214,293.72
Marvel - X-MEN: FIRST CLASS (2011) - $393,722,230.60
Marvel - X-MEN (2000) - $390,199,572.28
Marvel - FANTASTIC FOUR (2005) - $384,401,171.86
Marvel - CAPTAIN AMERICA: THE FIRST AVENGER (2011) - $376,349,138.62
DC - BATMAN & ROBIN (1997) - $338,404,896.20
Marvel - FANTASTIC FOUR: RISE OF THE SILVER SURFER (2007) - $318,978,292.82
Marvel - HULK (2003) - $304,743,162.14
DC - SUPERMAN II (1980) - $296,779,367.17
Marvel - THE INCREDIBLE HULK (2008) - $280,062,755.60
DC - CONSTANTINE (2005) - $268,474,909.10
Marvel - GHOST RIDER (2007) - $252,423,963.93
DC - GREEN LANTERN (2011) - $224,468,046.61
Marvel - DAREDEVIL (2003) - $222,545,186.80
DC - WATCHMEN (2009) - $197,748,910.95
Marvel - BLADE II (2002) - $196,183,892.43
Marvel - BLADE (1998) - $183,428,789.95
DC - SUPERMAN III (1983) - $160,336,978.42
Marvel - BLADE: TRINITY (2004) - $154,988,698.68
DC - V FOR VENDETTA (2005) - $154,085,063.94
Marvel - GHOST RIDER: SPIRIT OF VENGEANCE (2012) - $132,563,930
DC - CATWOMAN (2004) - $98,715,369.84
Marvel - HOWARD THE DUCK (1986) - $78,239,089.20
Marvel - ELEKTRA (2005) - $65,909,852.12
Marvel - THE PUNISHER (2004) - $65,768,387.73
DC - SUPERMAN IV: THE QUEST FOR PEACE (1987) - $31,194,670.30
DC - SUPERGIRL (1984) - $31,104,815.61
DC - SWAMP THING (1982) $14,051,252.63
DC - BATMAN (1966) - $11,866,087.84
DC - JONAH HEX (2010) - $11,455,117.72
Marvel - PUNISHER: WAR ZONE (2008) - $10,737,843.87
DC - BATMAN: MASK OF THE PHANTASM (1993) - $8,791,155.33
DC - SUPERMAN AND THE MOLE MEN (1951) - $4,481,402.81
DC - STEEL (1997) - $2,430,663.27
DC - THE RETURN OF SWAMP THING (1989) - $351,590.51

So inflation adjusted, it still needs more to top SR but that should not be a problem, as it will likely go over within this week at the rate it's going. I believe it will make it to the top ten. Besides that, it's interesting to see how the whole genre pans out. Like how it's easy for WB to look at BATMAN RETURNS as a disappointment after the first film (their other summer entry LETHAL WEAPON 3 was a bigger hit worldwide that year, which is kind of crazy to realize). I haven't kept track of IM3's box office too much, so I didn't realize it was this big when looking at the worldwide list. What's really surprising is how SUPERMAN II dropped. It was still a big hit in the states, but beyond that it didn't make that big of a splash internationally. I think that might have to do with it being released in Europe much earlier than the US. I have no idea how they handled the international marketing, but that's just my guess. The whole idea of the US having to wait months after Europe got it first is just extremely unusual, especially for what is an American icon.
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Re: Man of Steel Box Office Watch

Post  thecolorsblend on Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:19 pm

Eh, I always chalked that up to the Salkinds probably trying like hell to avoid competing with (and thus losing to) The Empire Strikes Back. That wouldn't have been an issue in December 1978 but with the myriad rereleases Star Wars and Empire had during the summers, nobody wanted to take the risk. Hell, the same exact thing happened to an even bigger degree in 1999 when Episode One came along and it had something like a full month to itself.
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Re: Man of Steel Box Office Watch

Post  James Stocks on Tue Jun 25, 2013 9:34 pm

thecolorsblend wrote:Eh, I always chalked that up to the Salkinds probably trying like hell to avoid competing with (and thus losing to) The Empire Strikes Back. That wouldn't have been an issue in December 1978 but with the myriad rereleases Star Wars and Empire had during the summers, nobody wanted to take the risk. Hell, the same exact thing happened to an even bigger degree in 1999 when Episode One came along and it had something like a full month to itself.
That would make sense, however they might have changed their minds as SUPERMAN III was released in the summer of RETURN OF THE JEDI, and I'm sure nobody was happier than the Salkinds on that opening weekend as it was the first film to dethrone JEDI from the #1 spot. Not bad, not bad at all. I suppose after how well II did in the states they felt confident that III would do just fine with STAR WARS being in the competition. I doubt even SUPERMAN RETURNS would have dethroned PIRATES if it were released after.
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Re: Man of Steel Box Office Watch

Post  thecolorsblend on Wed Jun 26, 2013 9:45 am

James Stocks wrote:I doubt even SUPERMAN RETURNS would have dethroned PIRATES if it were released after.
That's not exactly theoretical. My view is that Singerman only did as "well" as it did because it preceded Pirates 2. In the US anyway. In other territories though, Pirates 2 came out first... and it still beat Singerman into submission. There was a notion out there for a long time that Singerman would've been the champ if it had come out after Pirates but the official record tells a very different story.

Anyway. To business. MOS was at $214,615,316 as of Monday, 06.24.2013 according to Box Office Mojo. At this stage of the game, comparisons to Singerman seem kind of pointless. Still, I've not been able to find much updated info about the MOS international total lately. Box Office Mojo and boxoffice.com have pretty similar numbers but neither show updated info for international figures apart from this past weekend's estimate. Maybe it's out there and I'm just missing it but I've not found it. My hunch though is that surely the MOS international figure has pulled ahead of Singerman's over the past coupe of days. There's no hard data I can point to for that; all I've got are my instincts. Could be wrong though.

As to Iron Man, how does MOS compare? As always, it's tracking favorably. On Day #11, Iron Man grossed $3,850,844. At the same point, MOS grossed $4,537,163. The only major area I've found where Iron Man pulls ahead is Weekend #2, where MOS grossed $28 million over the two days compared to Iron Man's $35 million. It must be emphasized though that MOS was up against Monsters and WWZ on the second weekend while Iron Man was up against What Happens In Vegas and Speed Racer. So that's a bit lopsided. Breaking away from Weekend #2, the numbers resume their trend of favoring MOS.

Because we're all about intellectual honesty here, I'm not sure how much longer MOS will continue to track ahead of Iron Man. I'm not an analyst but there's presently about a $100 million'ish disparity between the two films domestic numbers. It's tough to believe the coming weeks will make up that difference. They may, fucked if I know, but I'd be surprised. We don't know what future weekends will be like but we do know that MOS is going to face heavy competition from other films in the coming weeks. That second weekend is perfectly defensible but it still hit hard. I think the MOS numbers as compared to Iron Man may start to peter out next week once Despicable Me 2 and the Lone Ranger come along.
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Re: Man of Steel Box Office Watch

Post  thecolorsblend on Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:41 pm

-- The Amazing Spider-Man (http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=weekend&id=spiderman4.htm)
Weekend #1 (Jul 6-8)- $62,004,688 (gross to date $137,022,258)
Weekend #2 (Jul 13-15)- $34,628,104 (gross to date $200,500,351)

-- MOS
Weekend #1 (Jun 14-16)- $116,619,362 (gross to date $128,681,486)
Weekend #2 (Jun 21-23)- $41,287,206 (gross to date $210,078,153)

As we head into Weekend #3, one thing I've become keenly aware of is that MOS is not only outpacing Iron Man, it's also tracking favorably compared to The Amazing Spider-Man (Singerman is toast, just forget about it). TASM had a very long opening weekend and so far that's the only advantage it has. But if you compare weekend figures, MOS actually has the lead. It's not really an apples to apples comparison though.

Still, tracking, grosses and trajectory are what matter. TASM was only at $228,611,425 after Weekend #3. Given that MOS is already at $223,924,818, I can't picture circumstances where MOS doesn't continue outpacing TASM. Even if MOS hits only $20 million this weekend (which I could see being the case considering what's coming), it'll still be well ahead of TASM at this same juncture.

Some Spider-Man apologist may argue that TASM was hampered by Ice Age 4 in Weekend #2 and TDKRises in Weekend #3. I'd like to head that off at the pass and point out (A) MOS has faced and will face very similar challenges... and it's still outperforming TASM and (B) for trivia's sake (and overall profitability aside) the trajectory of Spider-Man films in the US has been downward.

-- US Grosses
Spider-Man- $403,706,375 (opened in 3,615 theaters)
Spider-Man 2- $373,585,825 (opened in 4,152 theaters)
Spider-Man 3- $336,530,303 (opened in 4,252 theaters)
The Amazing Spider-Man- $262,030,663 (opened in 4,318 theaters)

Anyway, food for thought. TASM2 could buck the trend for all I know. But right now Superman could factually outgross Spider-Man.

Who would've predicted that back in 2007?
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Re: Man of Steel Box Office Watch

Post  non_amos on Fri Jun 28, 2013 12:58 am

I think one thing that hurt the rebooted Spiderman was the fact that many people felt like it shouldn't be rebooted. I personally liked the film but I can also see other's points as well. I guess to add fuel to the fire is the fact that Spiderman 4 was pretty much set in stone & then the plug was pulled just as quickly which I think many didn't take too kindly to. I get that too.

Superman, OTOH, was in dire need of a reboot & I think everyone & their cousin knew it, that is, unless they were an apologist. Spidey may not have really been necessary but Supes was. And in spite of duh critics and duh apologists I think most true fans have embraced MOS. And now MOS has officially made more than Singerman:


http://www.boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=main&id=superman2012.htm

Total Lifetime Grosses
Domestic: $223,924,818   54.3%
Foreign: $188,300,000   45.7%


Worldwide: $412,224,818 

And it's not over yet folks! Excited
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Re: Man of Steel Box Office Watch

Post  thecolorsblend on Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:40 pm

Shame on me for not posting this sooner but...

Thursday, 06.27.2013 Domestic US Total- $227,840,106 (Day 14 of wide release)

That is significant because that was when MOS exceeded production costs. Of course, there are all kinds of variables in play here. The marketing costs, the $170 million profit from product placement already in the bank before cameras even rolled, the Legacy Pictures cut of the proceeds and other stuff. Are all costs split between WB and Legacy? Are all profits? How much, if any, of the $170 million will Legacy get? I have no clue about that stuff but these are considerations.

Still, say it with me, MOS did in precisely two weeks what Singerman never did- earned back the production cost in the US. Competition has been fierce but MOS won't need TV sales, home video sales and all that other shit to be profitable. By comparison, I don't know that Singerman is in the black even after releases on DVD, HD-DVD and Blu-Ray! If you buy into the idea that the cost of bringing Singerman to the screen was $270 million, obviously the movie fell well short of that. If you think only the final film's production budget should be counted (and WB has a different opinion on that, trust me), again, the best you can say is Singerman cost $220 or $225 million. So at this point, what we're arguing over is whether Singerman tanked at a $20 million loss or a $70 million loss. So to even bother with it is picking gnat shit out of pepper. Singerman lost money. Shit, as you all know, the only way you can argue Singerman made a damn penny is you compare the worldwide gross to the production cost. That's not how most movie studios look at the matter though, I can assure you.

I have to wonder if WB has some remorse over rescheduling MOS for summer 2013. Obviously the movie is successful -- and you could argue that December 2012 might not have ended much better what with the Hobbit in theaters -- but this has been a pretty crowded past few weeks. Makes you wonder.
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Re: Man of Steel Box Office Watch

Post  James Stocks on Sat Jun 29, 2013 10:27 pm

I think the past few years has shown that a blockbuster film can do good in the winter as one would during the summer. SKYFALL and THE HOBBIT being the most recent examples is proof of that, and they overall made very similar box office results while playing at the same time. Would MAN OF STEEL have done as good if released then? I think so, but we'll never truly know. This winter we'll have THOR: THE DARK WORLD being the first major superhero film in many years (possibly since S:TM? I can't remember any after that, at least domestically).
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Post  thecolorsblend on Sun Jun 30, 2013 10:15 am

http://www.boxoffice.com/statistics/movies/superman-man-of-steel-2012

boxoffice.com is estimating a $20 million weekend for MOS for an estimated total of $254,675,000 in the US. The crazy competition is taking its toll. Still, I think it's worth mentioning that I actually expected a steeper dropoff. Based on nothing but a hunch, I figured MOS would hit $12 or $13 million this weekend. So the $20 million estimate from boxoffice.com caught at least me off guard.

Unless MOS has been withdrawn from international release, the gross is surely higher than $188,300,000 listed at http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?page=weekend&id=superman2012.htm so I'd love a update already. It's been about a week since that $188.3 million number came out, it was an estimate even then and some solid fucking numbers are overdue. Do they only update these damn things once a week? Being as the figure is a week old, it stands to reason that MOS has outgrossed Singerman internationally (the last domino to fall in Singerman being completely outperformed by MOS) but it'd sure be nice to have real confirmation of that.
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Post  James Stocks on Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:38 am

Yeah, international numbers only come up once a week as there's so much data to collect. Usually around the end of Sundays or Monday mornings. I realized that when I was watching for updates on SKYFALL. Besides that, with the numbers coming up I think MOS has a clear shot for the 300 barrier. It'll be awhile as the weeks go by, but it'll come.
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Post  thecolorsblend on Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:58 am

Mmm, that's interesting. $300 million internationally would be welcome. Realistic, even. I may end up eating my hat over this but I think MOS will be lucky to even come close to $300 million in the US when all's said and done because of the competition. But $300 million internationally would put it at over $500 million worldwide.

You know, the very number Alan Horn told Variety (or someone) he had expected of Singerman.
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Post  superman1938 on Sun Jun 30, 2013 2:53 pm

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Post  thecolorsblend on Sun Jun 30, 2013 3:13 pm

superman1938 wrote:Looks like MOS passes half a billion...
http://www.deadline.com/2013/06/man-of-steel-passes-half-billion-global-mark/

Yeah. Caught that a while ago. Boy am I embarrassed. Gotta reset my estimate now.

-- Total Lifetime Grosses (Sunday, 06.30.2013)
Domestic- $248,660,000 (estimated)
Foreign- $271,700,000 (estimated)
Worldwide- $520,360,000 (estimated)
URL- http://boxofficemojo.com/movies/?id=superman2012.htm

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Post  superman1938 on Sun Jun 30, 2013 3:44 pm

Saw it again this morning...soo worth the 9 buck matinee ...
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Re: Man of Steel Box Office Watch

Post  non_amos on Sun Jun 30, 2013 5:29 pm

superman1938 wrote:Saw it again this morning...soo worth the 9 buck matinee ...

 I wish I could afford to see it again! I want to & can't. Man this sucks! Unless I want to watch the crappy version online. Mad

Here's something that bugs me though. I saw a similar report while ago at SHH. Then I go & check out a few of the comments. Sure, there's comments heaping praise on the film but then there's a number of the comments about 'it was awful'. Then there's comments from apparent supporters of MOS but obviously they have no faith in the film having any legs.

I'll make a prediction here. MOS stands a better chance of hitting 300 million domestically than Singerman did of hitting 200. And I don't think it'll take as long either. Just leave MOS in the theaters until October so we can do a side-by-side comparison.

EDIT TO ADD: http://www.deadline.com/2013/06/man-of-steel-spoiler-sequel-superman/

Rather than post this whole article as it's just more arguing about Superman killing Zod but there's the link if you want to check it out. The reason I posted it though is because here's an example of the many asinine comments:

First the voice of reason:


This is so stupid and misconstrued. Superman didn’t “allow” thousands to die. Zod and his world machine did the killing and Superman did what he could as a new guy on the job to save the world. And he did save the world. 7 billion people. So just stop it.
Comment by Tom Strong — Tuesday June 25, 2013 @ 8:53pm PDT  Reply to this post

Now the rebuttal to this opinion from a moron:



Yeah, actually, Superman DID allow thousands to die. In this version. In all other versions of Superman I’ve encountered, our hero had a moral compass and would have at least made an ATTEMPT to prevent untold thousands of people from dying in both Metropolis and in the carnage that took place in Smallville. This, coupled with his decision to kill Zod, on top of a good dozen other utterly stupid plot points (why did Zod ask Lois to accompany Superman into the spaceship? How did the ship that’s been buried in the ice for 18,000 years happen to have Jor-El’s holographic information? Why did Pa Kent not allow Clark to save him with his super speed that would’ve protected the younger man’s identity? etc.) have made me talk down this movie to everyone I see and guaranteed I will never, ever spend another nickle on anything associated with this incarnation of the DC hero. Oh, and I’m not so darned nerdy that I gave a rat’s behind about the new version of the suit of the many other changes to the lore. I just loathe that they obliterated an icon’s moral compass. I hate this movie.
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Yeah Tracy, talk this movie down to everyone you meet & learn how it feels to be ignored! Rolling Eyes
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