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And I say it's bullshit. YOU decide:
http://www.movienewz.com/superman-reboot-plot-details-revealed/
If I'm not mistaken, the "spoiler" story sounds EXACTLY like one of the issues of what colors calls "Sucky Origins". To a T.
Like I said, I call bullshit. But time will tell....
http://www.movienewz.com/superman-reboot-plot-details-revealed/
Superman Reboot Plot Details Revealed?
April 3, 2011 by John Villoch
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Exclusive Superman Reboot Plot Details! Find out who the Man of Steel will be battling in the new Superman movie. A lot of plot rumors have been flying (no pun intended) around director Zack Snyder’s Superman: Man of Steel. Warner Bros. recently announced that Amy Adams will star in the coveted role of Lois Lane opposite Henry Cavill, who plays the new Clark Kent/Superman in the film. She joins Diane Lane and Kevin Costner, as Martha and Jonathan Kent. So far the studio hasn’t announced the antagonist(s). Every character from Superman’s rouge gallery, including a revamped Lex Luthor to ‘Superman II’ Kryptonian criminals General Zod and Ursa, have been rumored to be the next villains. Our source has provided us with new details that reveal Superman’s next opponent will be both human and superhuman.
Here’s what I’ve been told:
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General Sam Lane, the father of Lois Lane, is a central figure in director Zack Snyder’s Superman reboot. This really is as Zack described in several interviews about the film, a “real world” Superman. I’m told that when Superman arrives on the scene; people don’t know what to think. He’s an alien from another planet. What are his real intentions? He’s not human and that scares a lot of people. Here’s a guy who can fly, see through walls, is bullet proof and can lift a tank. The military views him as a potential threat to national security. They find kryptonite, pieces of his home planet, and discover its radioactive elements can be harnessed as a near unlimited source of power, both literally and figuratively. It’s a brand new form of energy that is secretly developed by the government. The military, under the direction of General Sam Lane, uses kryptonite to power an experimental cyborg super solider named Metallo. He’s ultimately exploited as a weapon against Superman.
Metallo is longtime supervillain from the Superman comic books who has appeared in several TV incarnations but never on film. I’ve also been told that (sorry fans) this will be an origin story but it will bare little resemblance to Richard Donner’s 1978 ‘Superman: The Movie’ and its sequels.
Here’s a brief synopsis:
In the pantheon of superheroes, Superman is the most recognized and revered character of all time. Clark Kent/Kal-El (Henry Cavill) is a young twenty-something journalist who feels alienated by powers beyond anyone’s imagination. Transported to Earth years ago from Krypton, an advanced alien planet, Clark struggles with the ultimate question – Why am I here? Shaped by the values of his adoptive parents Martha (Diane Lane) and Jonathan Kent (Kevin Costner), Clark soon discovers that having super abilities means making very difficult decisions. But when the world needs stability the most, it comes under attack. Will his abilities be used to maintain peace or ultimately used to divide and conquer? Clark must become the hero known as “Superman,” not only to shine as the world’s last beacon of hope but to protect the ones he loves.
If I'm not mistaken, the "spoiler" story sounds EXACTLY like one of the issues of what colors calls "Sucky Origins". To a T.
Like I said, I call bullshit. But time will tell....
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AP, you beat me to the punch! I just saw that in the last few minutes & was about to post before I go to work. Glad I checked here first. Anyway, I was gonna ask you if it was 'BS' or not.
On one hand, it makes sense in a way. In a REAL world, would the masses just accept an alien so 'whole-heartedly' like they did in the 1st Reeve film? Probably not. However, OTOH, this sounds like something that 'Steve' would've contrived also, so I have some doubts myself.
Another reason to have doubts about this plot? One word: NOLAN!
On one hand, it makes sense in a way. In a REAL world, would the masses just accept an alien so 'whole-heartedly' like they did in the 1st Reeve film? Probably not. However, OTOH, this sounds like something that 'Steve' would've contrived also, so I have some doubts myself.
Another reason to have doubts about this plot? One word: NOLAN!
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non_amos wrote:AP, you beat me to the punch! I just saw that in the last few minutes & was about to post before I go to work. Glad I checked here first. Anyway, I was gonna ask you if it was 'BS' or not.
On one hand, it makes sense in a way. In a REAL world, would the masses just accept an alien so 'whole-heartedly' like they did in the 1st Reeve film? Probably not. However, OTOH, this sounds like something that 'Steve' would've contrived also, so I have some doubts myself.
Another reason to have doubts about this plot? One word: NOLAN!
Exactly, non. It doesn't fit into ANY type of story that Nolan would think was "awesome".
And for those who would like to know why I am positive this is bullshit, here's the synopsis for the part of "Sucky Origins" I was referring to:
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- After Superman saves the day at a fire in the Daily Planet’s main warehouse; he concludes to Jimmy and Lois that the fire was arson, part of an attack on Planet. While still wary, public opinion is improving on Superman thanks to the Planet, as their circulation has risen by 700%. Lex calls upon General Sam Lane, Lois' father, who agrees to help Lex in exchange for weapons technology. Lex reveals that Superman is an alien, and can likely be stopped by the kryptonite rock Lex has, and that can power the Metallo battlesuit to stop him. Lois is greeted by Sgt. John Corben, with whom her father prefers she have a relationship. Lois refuses to date him, but John persists, and Clark steps in when it begins to get rough. John tries to intimidate Clark with a firm handshake, but Clark is considerably stronger. John leaves to meet Lex and Sam, and agrees to pilot Metallo. Clark takes Lois to lunch, where she continues to notice that he's not all he seems to be. Clark hears an explosion and leaves to become Superman but the explosion was a fake; Sam Lane had caused it in order to meet Superman. Sam accuses him of being an alien, and wants to know what his goals are, particularly with Lois. Superman refuses to continue the interview and tries to leave, but Sam tells Superman that if he leaves he'll be decalred an enemy; he leaves anyway, and Sam orders the Army to attack. The soldiers do little to Superman, but John, in the Metallo suit, manages to weaken him by exposing him to the kryptonite. Ricocheting bullets hit the kryptonite, which explodes and injures John and Superman escapes. Sam and his troops arrive at the Daily Planet, and orders it shut down until they can get definitive answers about Superman, mainly by Sam's daughter.
Lex takes John into surgery and replaces his heart with a kryptonite generator, turning him into Metallo. Sam reveals to Lois, Perry, and the Daily Planet staff, that Superman is an alien while Jimmy distracts the soldiers with flashbulbs and Lois escapes. Soldiers find Superman in the sewers and the battle reaches outside on one of the main streets of the city. Metallo enters the fight, and he begins to attack his own soldiers in order to get to Superman. Lois arrives to warn him about the kryptonite and tells him to leave, but he refuses to give up. Metallo attacks him with a kryptonite ray, threatening the bystanders, but Superman melts a manhole cover over the kryptonite and flies Metallo into space until the lack of oxygen knocks him out. Sam arrives and orders Superman and Lois arrested. The crowd turns on the Army, and Superman orders the crowd to stop, telling them that they, not the Army, not Lex Luthor, nor himself, are meant to be Metropolis's saviors. Superman meets with Lex and tells him Metropolis doesn't belong to him anymore: "You don't own us." Lex objects, since Superman isn't from Earth. Superman replies, "This is my home," and leaves. Later, Lex goes to pick another person from the crowd to give a new life to, only no one is there. Afterward, The Daily Planet celebrates becoming the top selling newspaper in the city. Superman visits Lois atop the Daily Planet building and thanks her for making him feel like he belongs there. He starts the Planet’s rusty globe spinning again. Lois asks, "Are you a man or an alien?" His response is, "I'm Superman, Lois."
This site just either pieced together their own bullshit in order to drive-up hits, or someone is screwing with them.
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Wow! With that plot synopsis, I know one thing we wouldn't be getting: the interview. Like in the 1st Reeve film, we have 'First Night' as it's called, followed by the interview with Lois. Superman reveals to her then & there he's 'from Krypton', with a K-R-Y. Then he takes her on that monumental 'Can You read My Mind?' flight.
Since this is a reboot I don't expect a carbon copy of the 1st Reeve film but you will have to admit, those scenes do have 'magic' to them, so to speak. I'd expect this reboot to also have its' own magic in some way or another, & Superman's relationship with Lois would possibly be one of those instances.
That description of 'Sucky Origins' doesn't sound like it has much 'magic' going for it. Ditto to that supposed 'plot leak'. And I personally expect this new film to have it's own 'magic' to it. In some way. The 1st film 'made you believe that a man can fly'. This reboot needs to do likewise but even more so. And although maybe you can see the logic in that supposed 'plot', it could also leave you cold as far as having a Superman that you can really care about. Remember people, this ain't Batman!
Since this is a reboot I don't expect a carbon copy of the 1st Reeve film but you will have to admit, those scenes do have 'magic' to them, so to speak. I'd expect this reboot to also have its' own magic in some way or another, & Superman's relationship with Lois would possibly be one of those instances.
That description of 'Sucky Origins' doesn't sound like it has much 'magic' going for it. Ditto to that supposed 'plot leak'. And I personally expect this new film to have it's own 'magic' to it. In some way. The 1st film 'made you believe that a man can fly'. This reboot needs to do likewise but even more so. And although maybe you can see the logic in that supposed 'plot', it could also leave you cold as far as having a Superman that you can really care about. Remember people, this ain't Batman!
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I just read this news a few mins ago. The description for film sounds like the typical bio. And the plot stuff sounds interesting with general lane(who I like to see in series). And metallo would be a nice change. But ya probably is bs.
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Not that there's a snowball's chance in hell of this happening but if Snyder's Superman adapted Sucky Origin including the Legion of Super-Heroes angle, I'd be willing to forgive a lot.
Of course, that'll never happen because the LOSH is something I sincerely doubt Nolan and Goyer have the faculties to understand, I'm just saying I could maybe live with a Sucky Origin story if it included the romp with the Legion.
Of course, that'll never happen because the LOSH is something I sincerely doubt Nolan and Goyer have the faculties to understand, I'm just saying I could maybe live with a Sucky Origin story if it included the romp with the Legion.
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I rather see a legion film. But that isn't going to happen any time soon
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I feel your pain.webhead2006 wrote:I rather see a legion film. But that isn't going to happen any time soon
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thecolorsblend wrote:Not that there's a snowball's chance in hell of this happening but if Snyder's Superman adapted Sucky Origin including the Legion of Super-Heroes angle, I'd be willing to forgive a lot.
Of course, that'll never happen because the LOSH is something I sincerely doubt Nolan and Goyer have the faculties to understand, I'm just saying I could maybe live with a Sucky Origin story if it included the romp with the Legion.
Like I said, this "leak" is bullshit. But IF it's true, it's strike one for me as far as the Reboot goes.
Doesn't this story remind you guys of 'The Incredible Hulk' movie?
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That's the entire basis of my gripe against Sucky Origin as a comic book. It's a Hulk story. You've got Lois as Betty, Superman as the Hulk, Sam as Thunderbolt Ross, etc. It's a shit comic and if you adapt it, you've got a shit movie. Yes! It's ABSOLUTELY an Incredible Hulk ripoff!Apologist Puncher wrote:Like I said, this "leak" is bullshit. But IF it's true, it's strike one for me as far as the Reboot goes.
Doesn't this story remind you guys of 'The Incredible Hulk' movie?
As you say, the "scoop" is most likely bullshit though. I can't imagine the plot leaking NOW. Three months ago or six months from now, yeah, but right now? I just can't picture that.
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thecolorsblend wrote:That's the entire basis of my gripe against Sucky Origin as a comic book. It's a Hulk story. You've got Lois as Betty, Superman as the Hulk, Sam as Thunderbolt Ross, etc. It's a shit comic and if you adapt it, you've got a shit movie. Yes! It's ABSOLUTELY an Incredible Hulk ripoff!
As you say, the "scoop" is most likely bullshit though. I can't imagine the plot leaking NOW. Three months ago or six months from now, yeah, but right now? I just can't picture that.
Want to know the sad part? Internet websites don't have to, and rarely DO, post "retractions".
If this were a LEGITIMATE site, they would definitely do so, or admit in their original story that they were skeptical, and will attempt to verify. But these other sites do this shit to up their "hits", and could care less what people think about them when it's determined that they LIED. So they latch onto something important, but not TOO important that it garners mainstream attention. Who cares if they fuck with some comic book "fanboys"?
Internet "journalism" at it's finest.
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That post. That one right up there. That post is damned near 'A' to 'Z' of why a lot of movie studios will NEVER respect "fan pages" like the Younis page and others. Or, worse, will co-opt them for their own purposes (Batman On Film, Blue Tights, Krypton Site, you name it).Apologist Puncher wrote:thecolorsblend wrote:That's the entire basis of my gripe against Sucky Origin as a comic book. It's a Hulk story. You've got Lois as Betty, Superman as the Hulk, Sam as Thunderbolt Ross, etc. It's a shit comic and if you adapt it, you've got a shit movie. Yes! It's ABSOLUTELY an Incredible Hulk ripoff!
As you say, the "scoop" is most likely bullshit though. I can't imagine the plot leaking NOW. Three months ago or six months from now, yeah, but right now? I just can't picture that.
Want to know the sad part? Internet websites don't have to, and rarely DO, post "retractions".
If this were a LEGITIMATE site, they would definitely do so, or admit in their original story that they were skeptical, and will attempt to verify. But these other sites do this shit to up their "hits", and could care less what people think about them when it's determined that they LIED. So they latch onto something important, but not TOO important that it garners mainstream attention. Who cares if they fuck with some comic book "fanboys"?
Internet "journalism" at it's finest.
Do the "fan journalists" pay their sources for info? That's what traditional, reputable media outlets do.
If they are "journalists", is it "unfair" for the studios to sic the lawyers on them for posting something WAY out of bounds (ie, theforce.net posting Episode II storyboards two years before the film's release)? That's what would happen if traditional media outlets crossed a line.
"Online journalists" want to have their cake and eat it too. They want to call themselves journalists without adhering to any relevant part of journalism as a school of writing, journalism as a set of ethics or journalism as media. Sorry chuckles, but it doesn't work that way. You want to call yourself a journalist? THEN ACT LIKE A JOURNALIST.
Keep in mind, I'm not taking about the aforementioned pages like Batman On Film, where someone VERY well-placed actually leaks all the info. The only way a lot of movie studios can keep the Internet in check is by befriending the high profile sites and leaking minor information to them in exchange for perks so that when that site inevitably finds out about MAJOR stuff, they won't post it. It's the lesser evil but it's the only option a lot of movie studios have. The other one would be dragging every single "fan page" into court and NOBODY wants THAT kind of ink.
And don't get me wrong, Jett from Batman On Film is as full of shit as anybody and more so than most (I'd put him up against Steve Younis any day of the week as far as being a completely spineless shill is concerned); all I'm saying is that Jett is on Nolan's leash and he KNOWS it. Much different from the bullshit pages which started this thread.
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You forgot to add Harry "Jabba" Knowles to that list. He is so BLATANT in his ASKING for things from the studios that he calls them "pwesents". He then turns around and, like you said, says "Well, I'm not a REAL journalist, so it's ok!".
The fucking internets, I swear to God....
The fucking internets, I swear to God....
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No argument, dude. The guy might've started off as a "watch dog" or "spoiler page" but it long since has been all about him, his ego and his handouts.
Dude is CONNECTED. He started his page at the right time, got the right kind of attention, etc. Luck. But he is connected and could blow pretty much any spoiler about pretty much any movie at pretty much any time. But he doesn't. The fact that your term "Ain't It Old News" is so befitting should tell you everything you need to know about who his TRUE master is (it ain't even movie studios anymore, it's his own fucking greed; and I've seen jackshit to convince me he's not outright PAID for positive reviews, nevermind all the shwag he gets).
Whatever, the guy's found a great scam and he's running it into the ground. More power to him but his page hasn't mattered since, what, 2005? Even before then??
Dude is CONNECTED. He started his page at the right time, got the right kind of attention, etc. Luck. But he is connected and could blow pretty much any spoiler about pretty much any movie at pretty much any time. But he doesn't. The fact that your term "Ain't It Old News" is so befitting should tell you everything you need to know about who his TRUE master is (it ain't even movie studios anymore, it's his own fucking greed; and I've seen jackshit to convince me he's not outright PAID for positive reviews, nevermind all the shwag he gets).
Whatever, the guy's found a great scam and he's running it into the ground. More power to him but his page hasn't mattered since, what, 2005? Even before then??
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Here's a good read for you, colors:
http://www.filmthreat.com/features/159/
http://www.filmthreat.com/features/159/
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Fuckin a, dude took the words right out of my mouth 11 years ago! I was close to ranting about the importance of independence any type of journalism but I figured nobody cares about that but me. But this guy summarized better than I would've anyway. Shit, he really said it all.
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He did indeed. But people still flock to his way-past-it's-prime site. So he'll continue to get his "pwesents", and will still get to DUPE people with his bought & paid for "reviews".
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I only just made the connection but Knowles is everything Steve Younis WISHES he could be.
Which is a pretty fucking low standard to set for oneself. But what do I know?
Which is a pretty fucking low standard to set for oneself. But what do I know?
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thecolorsblend wrote:I only just made the connection but Knowles is everything Steve Younis WISHES he could be.
Which is a pretty fucking low standard to set for oneself. But what do I know?
You know piece of shit sell out's when you see them.
That's something.
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Here's something to think about when "considering" this bullshit story:
How in the fuck can METALLO threaten THE PLANET?
Superman? Sure.
Metropolis? I can see it.
Planet Earth? You gotta be f'in KIDDING me.
How in the fuck can METALLO threaten THE PLANET?
Superman? Sure.
Metropolis? I can see it.
Planet Earth? You gotta be f'in KIDDING me.
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There was a version of Metallo from the 90's era that could probably threaten the planet. He had the ability to "grow" himself, graft other electrical components on, etc. Never liked that version (mostly because it was freaking stupid) and I hope like hell that NEVER comes to live action.
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Well maybe we don't need the antagonist (Whoever it maybe) to threaten the planet aleast not in the first installment, for now it's just the city that the antagonist needs to threaten and just save the planet threatening for future sequels or a possible "Justice League" film.
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Comicbookfan-V2 wrote:Well maybe we don't need the antagonist (Whoever it maybe) to threaten the planet aleast not in the first installment, for now it's just the city that the antagonist needs to threaten and just save the planet threatening for future sequels or a possible "Justice League" film.
Who said anything about "need"?
Reading comprehension isn't YOUR friend, is it?
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thecolorsblend wrote:There was a version of Metallo from the 90's era that could probably threaten the planet. He had the ability to "grow" himself, graft other electrical components on, etc. Never liked that version (mostly because it was freaking stupid) and I hope like hell that NEVER comes to live action.
Still don't see that as a world-wide threat like this piece of shit article states.
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I don't either... which is another reminder to you that the article is, at a minimum, "misinformed".Apologist Puncher wrote:thecolorsblend wrote:There was a version of Metallo from the 90's era that could probably threaten the planet. He had the ability to "grow" himself, graft other electrical components on, etc. Never liked that version (mostly because it was freaking stupid) and I hope like hell that NEVER comes to live action.
Still don't see that as a world-wide threat like this piece of shit article states.
Or outright bullshit.
Take your pick.
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