Re: THOR: The Dark World

thecolorsblend Sat Oct 15, 2011 2:34 am

My defense there is that Marvel Studios, for all the success it's had, is still ultimately a start up company without the same level of stability as your WB's and Paramounts and such. There's a business rationale behind this.

Of course, the logical counter-argument there is that some things are less "expenses" and more "investments"... and Favreau directing an Iron Man movie (or Brannagh for Thor) is such an example. And there's no artistically-oriented answer for that. It simply leads back to the above that Marvel ultimately has to protect their bottom line and ensure their future.

As far as Ed Norton is concerned, my understanding was that he wanted a level of creative oversight concerning his character that, frankly, he's not now and never will be entitled to. If it'd been a money issue, I sincerely believe his marquee value equates to money in the bank. Such would fall easily under my definition of "investment". Marvel would've been wise to pay him the money and keep the continuity of the Hulk franchise alive. But if the fucker insists on being the sole creative overseer of his character... well, then you've got a problem. And this is something he apparently does in other films as well.

Apologist Puncher Sat Oct 15, 2011 8:55 pm

thecolorsblend wrote:My defense there is that Marvel Studios, for all the success it's had, is still ultimately a start up company without the same level of stability as your WB's and Paramounts and such. There's a business rationale behind this.

It still is what it is though. Branagh isn't coming back because they found someone to pay less.

Not because he didn't want to.

Of course, the logical counter-argument there is that some things are less "expenses" and more "investments"... and Favreau directing an Iron Man movie (or Brannagh for Thor) is such an example. And there's no artistically-oriented answer for that. It simply leads back to the above that Marvel ultimately has to protect their bottom line and ensure their future.

Again, see above.

As far as Ed Norton is concerned, my understanding was that he wanted a level of creative oversight concerning his character that, frankly, he's not now and never will be entitled to. If it'd been a money issue, I sincerely believe his marquee value equates to money in the bank. Such would fall easily under my definition of "investment". Marvel would've been wise to pay him the money and keep the continuity of the Hulk franchise alive. But if the fucker insists on being the sole creative overseer of his character... well, then you've got a problem. And this is something he apparently does in other films as well.

Actually, Norton was PROMISED creative-control in order to get him to agree to play Bruce Banner:

http://www.slashfilm.com/the-truth-about-edward-norton-vs-marvel/

Edward Norton turned down the project when he was first approached but Marvel insisted that he meet with director Louis Leterrier, and Norton relented. At the meeting Norton offered his version of The Hulk story, and Marvel agreed to hire a screenwriter to work with him on a rewrite of Zak Penn‘s draft. But no screenwriter was ever hired and Norton did a substantial page-one rewrite by himself. Anne Thompson explains: “With about two months to go before the movie started filming, Norton did a page one rewrite–knowing that he couldn’t do anything radical, because sets were being built, locations found, etc. The entire Brazil sequence was already story-boarded.” Norton added a lot of dialogue and character motivation, and Marvel agreed to shoot Norton’s draft of the screenplay.

After production was completed, Leterrier put together “an assembly” of the film, which basically included everything that was shot. The director explained to Collider: “It’s called a suicide run because it’s absolutely horrible. You want to commit suicide after you see it.”

Marvel decided they wanted make a shorter, more action-packed cut of the film, discarding a lot of the character development pieces that Norton had brought to the screenplay.

If they did indeed say he could do HIS version of the Hulk so he would sign, and then turned around and did their own thing, you can understand why he'd be pissed.

Anyway, I hold no ill-will towards Marvel Films. They have made my two favorite comic book films of the year. But I will call a spade a spade.

thecolorsblend Sat Oct 15, 2011 9:17 pm

Hm. Well there you go then. So much for the Norton thing.

Apologist Puncher Sat Oct 15, 2011 10:42 pm

thecolorsblend wrote:Hm. Well there you go then. So much for the Norton thing.

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webhead2006 Tue Dec 27, 2011 11:47 am

More talk from kenneth on why he didn't do sequel:
http://www.metro.us/newyork/entertainment/article/1056193--kenneth-branagh-takes-on-lawrence-olivier--page2

Can you talk about your own decision not to do “Thor 2”?

I was proud of [“Thor”] and it was a lot of work, and it was a big risk for everybody — for Marvel employing somebody like me, for taking that character into a major film, for everything. So I was thrilled [the sequel] was being made. But it was happening so quickly. It was straight back in, and I needed time away from it, I needed to have a think. The third series “Wallander,” the TV series I do, was already on the cards, as well as a farce called “the Painkiller,” a play I did in Belfast — my hometown, very important to me — which I was in was in September and October. These things were already lined up, and it just wasn’t going to be possible to do all of them. It was a timing thing and a creative freshness kind of thing. And I wasn’t able to go straight back in and do the job that I knew that it deserved.

webhead2006 Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:06 am

http://www.deadline.com/2012/01/robert-rodat-to-rewrite-thor-2/

THOR 2 Getting A Last Minute Rewrite From SAVING PRIVATE RYAN Scribe
There's been yet another development in the messy production of the sequel to Kenneth Branagh's 2011 hit. Robert Rodat has been hired by Marvel Studios to rewrite the script for Alan Taylor based on Don Payne's draft. Read on for more.
Josh Wilding - 1/10/2012

After Kenneth Branagh decided not to direct THOR 2, Marvel Studios hired Monster helmer Patty Jenkins. The release date was then pushed back to November 2013 and it wasn't too long after that news hit that Jenkins suddenly decided to pull out of the project. After a not particularly long search, the studio settled on Game of Thrones director Alan Taylor to take charge of the production, although it would now appear that there's still some work to do before shooting starts later this year. Deadline reports that Saving Private Ryan scribe Robert Rodat has been hired to rewrite the script for Taylor and is reworking a draft by Don Payne. The reasons for why are unclear, and although this rewrite is taking place at what appears to be a fairly late stage, the writer was named as one of the candidates last December when Marvel's hunt for a new director began. Rodat's other work includes TV series Falling Skies and a rewrite of the critically panned 2008 film 10,000 BC.

webhead2006 Sun May 13, 2012 12:22 am

not film news

COLORS EDIT- Then I guess it has no place in this thread, eh?

Apologist Puncher Tue May 15, 2012 1:21 am

'THOR 2' Marvel London casting call:

http://www.aintitcool.com/node/55673

UPDATE!! Disney and Marvel London casting calls... could this be ANT MAN?

Britgeek again!

Update: The casting folks have just confirmed that the Marvel movie is indeed THOR 2. It's been a busy couple of years for Chris Hemsworth. So, no ANT MEN... yet!

Film 2

We are starting to cast for a new blockbuster feature film about one of the Marvel super heroes.

Filming will be starting this summer.

Role 1: Muscular males and females

We are looking for males and females with athletic and muscular body frames from any ethnic background.

Requirements:

-you must have a Muscular or athletic body frame.

-You must have easy access to London

James Stocks Tue May 15, 2012 1:39 am

Looking forward to this. I really dug THOR. Before seeing it I thought the trailers made it look like a turkey but I was very impressed. It actually reminded me of Donner's approach on Superman where he took it seriously but had plenty of comedic moments to give it some levity. Lots of color and great production design. I think it's too bad Branagh won't return to direct, but I look forward to how this turns out.

Apologist Puncher Tue May 15, 2012 1:51 am

'THOR' was definitely my favorite between it and 'Captain America'. Want to know the sad part? After seeing Hemsworth in 'Star Trek', I told people it was too bad he wasn't American, or else he would be a great pic for Superman.

Then he got 'THOR' and we got Henry Cavill, who is not American either....

As for Branagh, it does indeed suck that he won't be back. But getting one of the directors from 'Game of Thrones' was a smart move. Much smarter than Patty Jenkins.

thecolorsblend Tue May 15, 2012 1:59 am

Apologist Puncher wrote:'THOR' was definitely my favorite between it and 'Captain America'. Want to know the sad part? After seeing Hemsworth in 'Star Trek', I told people it was too bad he wasn't American, or else he would be a great pic for Superman.

Then he got 'THOR' and we got Henry Cavill, who is not American either....

As for Branagh, it does indeed suck that he won't be back. But getting one of the directors from 'Game of Thrones' was a smart move. Much smarter than Patty Jenkins.

In an alternate universe where WB has a plan for their movies, I've imagined Branagh cutting a deal to direct a Fourth World/New Gods movie. I'd imagine that a movie like that would tickle the same parts of his Shakespearean imagination as Thor did.

But of course we all know how likely this is to happen...

Apologist Puncher Tue May 15, 2012 2:59 am

I really, really dig Idris Elba, and the guy hasn't let me down ONCE:

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=59711

"I'm actually excited about it," Idris Elba said. "I literally just did a costume fitting the other day." Revealing that he has already seen an outline of the sequel's story, he's mostly anticipating Heimdall's expanded role. "Definitely Heimdall's more involved, but also, what's more involved is who the Asgardians are," he said. "I think we'll see a sense of that. It's a huge film, 'Thor 2,' but I also think it's micro in a way that you start to look at people, who they are a little bit more."

When they reboot Blade, they better not consider ANYONE but Elba for the role.

webhead2006 Tue May 15, 2012 11:05 am

Would like to see him as blade. And is nice he may be getting bigger role. As for game of thrones guy on thor 2 haven't seen the show. So I hope he brings his a game to thor.

Apologist Puncher Mon May 21, 2012 10:32 pm

http://latino-review.com/2012/05/21/news-thor-2-possbile-casting-lobo/

News On ‘Thor 2′ And Possbile Casting for ‘Lobo’

Bleeding Cool ran an interesting article on Thor 2 and Lobo that mentioned possible casting and which characters we can expect to see.

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Thor 2

While trying to nail down a confirmation on Mr The Rock appearing as Lobo, they found out some info on the next solo flick featuring Asgard’s favorite son. The word is The Enchantress will be appearing in the sequel, as to which version of the character we’ll be getting? Our guess is as good as theirs.

What do you think of The Enchantress appearing? How would you like to see the character portrayed? Who should play her?

webhead2006 Tue May 22, 2012 12:05 am

If they are going with the character. Can't wait to see who scores the role and what they do with her. Don't know much on comics verison of the character. But I have enjoyed her appearances on avengers emh show. She could bring in some good drama between thor, and jane. Which would be fun to see play out.

non_amos Tue May 22, 2012 1:53 am

Personally I hate trying to use a phone to get online. It sucks! I don't even own a 'smart phone' which would probably be the best way for that anyway, right? My regular cell ain't even worth the effort to even try getting online. I can't speak for Ipads & such but certainly a computer is your best bet ordinarily. I've seen someone getting on Youtube on their smart phone before. If you can't see the screen, what's the point?

webhead2006 Thu May 24, 2012 8:11 pm

Marvel courting casino royale villain for thor 2 role:
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/nailbiter111/news/?a=60376

Marvel Wants Mads Mikkelsen For Villain Role In THOR 2

Casting is about to go into full swing for Thor 2 as the film is set to start filming later this summer in London. First up for Marvel is choosing the right actor for the villain role and they have set their sights on Casino Royale baddie,Mads Mikkelsen. nailbiter111 - 5/24/2012

Mad Mikkelsen, the Denmark native is having a great week. First, he found out that he is contention for a best acting award at the Cannes Film Festival for his portrayal of a man accused of being a pedophile in The Hunt. And now Variety is reporting that Mads is up for a villainous role in the sequel to Thor.

It is unknown at this time what part he will play, but what is known is that his Tom Hiddleston, who played Loki in the original, will still have a big part as an antagonist. Marvel and Disney declined to comment on the casting.

webhead2006 Mon May 28, 2012 11:01 am

Kevin Feige comments on Thor 2:
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JoshWildingNewsAndReviews/news/?a=60573

Kevin Feige Promises "A Major NEW Antagonist" In THOR 2 And Debunks Thanos Speculation
Discussing the success of Marvel's The Avengers and commenting briefly on the different side of Asgard we should expect in Thor 2, Marvel Studios head honcho Kevin Feige confirms that the God of Thunder won't be taking on the Mad Titan in his solo sequel.
Josh Wilding - 5/28/2012

In the latest issue of Empire Magazine, Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige has shared his thoughts on the massive box office success of The Avengers (which just yesterday became the fastest film to gross $500 million domestically). "I was just hoping it would beat the opening weekend of Iron Man 2, which was the biggest opening weekend for any Marvel Studios movie. We did 80 or 90 million above that. As the numbers started coming in on Friday night, Saturday night, Sunday night, they just kept getting bigger and bigger, into areas I would never in a million years have believed."

The Avengers was not the finale for us," he reiterates, making it clear that Joss Whedon's superhero ensemble is far from the conclusion of everything the studio has been working towards. "It was a giant, giant marker, but it was never the finale. We are already well into the plan for the next phase of our little cinematic universe." That next phase includes Thor 2, and Feige had this to say about what we should expect from the sequel. "We're going to see the other side of Asgard. It's not all polished and golden in this film. And the events of Avengers will have affected Thor for sure. His relationship with Loki will continue to evolve, and the biggest part is Natalie and Thor returning with Jane Foster."

After Loki failed Thanos in The Avengers, many fans assumed that he'll be heading to Asgard seeking his revenge and a chance to get his hands on the Infinity Gauntlet. Well, the Marvel Studios boss was quick to stamp that rumour out when the magazine put the idea to him. However, he did promise the introduction of an altogether different bad guy for the God of Thunder to face off against (who will presumably be played by Mads Mikkelsen). "No, future, future. But there will be a major new villain. A major, major new antagonist..."

webhead2006 Thu May 31, 2012 6:10 pm

Thor 2 release date change:
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=60744

Marvel's THOR 2 will swing his hammer again on 11/8/13 instead of the previously announced 11/15.

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Apologist Puncher Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:41 pm

http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/rorschachsrants/news/?a=61269

Josh Dallas Won't Return As Fandral In THOR 2
The actor won't be able to reprise his role as one of the Warriors 3 in the Marvel sequel due to his commitment to tv series Once Upon A Time..

Well, not everyone from Marvel's Thor will be back for the sequel it seems. Entertainment Weekly report that because of his commitment to filming the second season of ABC's Once Upon A Time, Josh Dallas will not be reprising the role of Fandral, one of the "Warriors Three".

The actor had the following to say to EW..

“I’ll be missing out on wearing all that hair! The timing wasn’t right. I’m bummed about it because I had such a great experience and great time making the first film and was really excited about coming back. Marvel and Disney tried to make it work. But because of my commitment to Once Upon a Time, I was not going to be able to do both. So I’ll have to hand the reins over to someone else. I love Marvel. I wish them all the best. I will certainly be first in line to see it. On the other hand, I’m going back to the best job on TV. I love it and can’t wait to delve in more.”

Ah well, I guess we'll be getting a new Fandral. At least it wasn't a larger role that needed to be recast. But what do you guys think? Will Dallas be missed as the charming rogue of the Warriors Three?

webhead2006 Fri Jun 08, 2012 8:48 pm

Well that blows timing is wrong for dallas to return. I didn't think he was bad in thor. Would have liked to see what more he and the other warrior's three would do in sequel. Hopefully they can someone simular to him if the character is indeed a big player.

webhead2006 Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:19 pm

looks like we may have Frandral replacement:
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/zachary-levi-thor-2-cast-josh-dallas-335401?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

'Thor 2' Eyes 'Chuck' Star Zachary Levi (Exclusive)
The actor could end up filling the boots worn by "Once Upon a Time" star Josh Dallas.
7:17 PM PDT 6/8/2012 by Borys Kit

Marvel Studios is targeting Zachary Levi to join the cast of Thor 2. He would replace Josh Dallas in the film.
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Dallas played Frandral, one of the Warriors Three in Thor, but is bowing out of the sequel to the 2011 hit movie due to his commitments to the ABC show Once Upon a Time.

Levi’s involvement may blessed by the gods, however. He was in talks to originally play the role in 2010 but had to bow out when his cult NBC show Chuck got a last-minute reprieve from cancellation and an episode extension.

Levi’s talks are in at an early stage -- negotiations have not yet begun, according to sources -- but an offer is imminent.

Thor 2 is gearing up fast for a July start. Game of Thrones director Alan Taylor is set to hop into the director’s chair. Chris Hemsworth, Natalie Portman, Idris Elba and Anthony Hopkins are returning, and Mads Mikkelsen is in negotiations to play the villain.

Marvel had no comment.

I definitely be down with levi taking the role. Also like the article said he did look into being in Thor but chuck final season prevented him from it. So I hope he signs on.

non_amos Sat Jun 09, 2012 12:35 pm

This news should please swrighty as CHUCK is one of his favorite programs & he states as much. Not that it really matters about that though, huh? But the casting sounds good nevertheless.

Apologist Puncher Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:28 pm

It's too bad Cary Elwes is too old. He would have been perfect 10 years ago:

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webhead2006 Thu Jul 12, 2012 3:45 pm

No Mads Mikkelsen in Thor 2:
http://www.comicbookmovie.com/fansites/MarvelFreshman/news/?a=63621

Mads Mikkelsen NOT Appearing In THOR 2 After All

It seems King Arthur actor Mads Mikkelsen won't be joining the anticipated sequel to Marvel's Thor flick,revealing as much in a recent video interview. Hit the jump and check it out! DCMarvelFreshman - 7/12/2012

During a recent video interview with European news site Zoom.in UK, Danish King Arthur actor Mads Mikkelsen revealed he won't be joining Marvel's expanding cinematic universe in the Alan Taylor-directed THOR 2, despite reports saying otherwise. Conducted while on-set of Mikkelsen's recent flick, Move On, watch the video below.

"That's not happening unfortunately," the actor declares. "I had a meeting with [the filmmakers], but it was a bit too late and then Hannibal came in...It's just not happening." While Mads Mikkelsen's role in the sequel was being kept underwraps, Hollywood trades were sure it was a villain alongside Tom Hiddleston's Loki.

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