Faora the NEXT Villain?! A New Krypton?!

Faora a Villainess in Man of Steel?
by SuperHeroHype
Apr 14th, 2011
And what might Krypton look like?

Latino Review has posted bullet list of rumors about Zack Snyder's Man of Steel that they say came from a solid scooper:

Here is what my source told me:

- You will see JOR-EL and his wife, Lara.
- Daniel Day-Lewis was looked at for JOR-EL and not the villain.
- Krypton will not be a crystal planet like the Donner film; this Krypton will PROBABLY look like the Coruscant skyline from Star Wars.
- The Kryptonian villainess is not URSA...Well sort of. The villainess is FAORA.

In the movies Superman and Superman II, the female Kryptonian villainess URSA is based on Faora.

non_amos wrote:http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/165385-faora-a-villainess-in-man-of-steel

Faora a Villainess in Man of Steel?
by SuperHeroHype
Apr 14th, 2011
And what might Krypton look like?

Latino Review has posted bullet list of rumors about Zack Snyder's Man of Steel that they say came from a solid scooper:

Here is what my source told me:

- You will see JOR-EL and his wife, Lara.
- Daniel Day-Lewis was looked at for JOR-EL and not the villain.
- Krypton will not be a crystal planet like the Donner film; this Krypton will PROBABLY look like the Coruscant skyline from Star Wars.
- The Kryptonian villainess is not URSA...Well sort of. The villainess is FAORA.

In the movies Superman and Superman II, the female Kryptonian villainess URSA is based on Faora.

Also:

http://www.latinoreview.com/news/exclusive-man-of-steel-will-reveal-a-new-krypton-more-13234

thecolorsblend wrote:Assuming there's any truth to that stuff... GOOD! The Krypton/Coruscant and Faora things line up with my sensibilities rather nicely. In fact, I think I even tossed out Coruscant as inspiration for Krypton in some thread or another.

As to Faora, talk about a psychotic, sadistic bitch. Chick's got issues. Her key defining element is that, unlike Ursa, she's anything but Zod's lackey.

Apologist Puncher wrote:

thecolorsblend wrote:Assuming there's any truth to that stuff... GOOD! The Krypton/Coruscant and Faora things line up with my sensibilities rather nicely. In fact, I think I even tossed out Coruscant as inspiration for Krypton in some thread or another.

As to Faora, talk about a psychotic, sadistic bitch. Chick's got issues. Her key defining element is that, unlike Ursa, she's anything but Zod's lackey.

I think if people are expecting Non to show up will be disappointed. It'll just be the two of them.

I think this Faora role would be right up Jessica Biel's alley. She has the looks and physicality necessary for the part.

thecolorsblend wrote:I dunno, man. Faora is supposed to be a murderous ice queen. Even ZOD gets a little nervous around her. But for her media overexposure, Angelina Jolie might've been a good choice. But as it is, I'm still sick of seeing her everywhere so we need to find someone else who can play a really frigid bitch.

thecolorsblend wrote:Something else, the Apologists? Most of them are shitting themselves over this. "Whaaa... no crystal Krypton? But THAT'S NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE!" Others are saying "no Silver Age stuff please". Because, y'know, Silver Age comics are the only place you can find air ships cruising around impossibly huge skyscrapers on a futuristic world.

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/news.php?readmore=9605#comments

As ever, anything that fucks up an Apologist's day is okay in my book.

thecolorsblend wrote:Something else, the Apologists? Most of them are shitting themselves over this. "Whaaa... no crystal Krypton? But THAT'S NEVER BEEN DONE BEFORE!" Others are saying "no Silver Age stuff please". Because, y'know, Silver Age comics are the only place you can find air ships cruising around impossibly huge skyscrapers on a futuristic world.

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/news.php?readmore=9605#comments

As ever, anything that fucks up an Apologist's day is okay in my book.

#31 | Sabaoth on April 15, 2011 2:43pm EST
Faora is not the predecessor or inspiration of Ursa.
Faora first appeared in Action Comics #471 (May, 1977)

Superman I & II had already begun filming simultaneously in March 1977...

Cary Bates was probably guided by Julie Schwartz and Jeannette Khan (who likely had seen the movie scripts) to write Action Comics #471-473, and create Faora.

Ursa was the inspiration for Faora.

This rumor is total bull[censored]!

non_amos wrote:Does anyone know if this little tidbit could possibly be true?:

http://www.supermanhomepage.com/news.php?readmore=9605#comments

#31 | Sabaoth on April 15, 2011 2:43pm EST
Faora is not the predecessor or inspiration of Ursa.
Faora first appeared in Action Comics #471 (May, 1977)

Superman I & II had already begun filming simultaneously in March 1977...

Cary Bates was probably guided by Julie Schwartz and Jeannette Khan (who likely had seen the movie scripts) to write Action Comics #471-473, and create Faora.

Ursa was the inspiration for Faora.

This rumor is total bull[censored]!

This comes from our own little neighborhood apologist Sabaoth. Anyone know if this could actually be true?

thecolorsblend wrote:Read 'em and weep, Apologist douchebags; Faora's first appearance was in Action Comics #471, May 1977. How and why would Julie Schwartz dictate to Cary Bates what type of character to write just to tie in with a movie? And *IF* he had... why not go the full nine and USE THE SAME FUCKING NAME?!

Apologist Puncher wrote:

thecolorsblend wrote:Read 'em and weep, Apologist douchebags; Faora's first appearance was in Action Comics #471, May 1977. How and why would Julie Schwartz dictate to Cary Bates what type of character to write just to tie in with a movie? And *IF* he had... why not go the full nine and USE THE SAME FUCKING NAME?!

Doesn't anyone else find it funny that an admitted Apologist is complaining about UN-ORIGINALITY?

Apologist douchenozzle wrote:#18 | Supereyes on April 15, 2011 2:43am EST
Please don't tell me they're going back to the origin, with Zod, Faora and a Non-type character, only a different Krypton. STM is a classic. That was the Superman movie, this should be a new Superman movie, but respectful of the original movie, so don't do the origin. Doesn't matter if this Superman isn't related to the CR Superman movies, it doesn't mean they have to go way back to Krypton. Flashbacks would be alright, showing the scenes and history or Krypton through Superman's training would be alright.

We know the origin story, people who don't like Superman might think this is lame, because just about everyone can tell you Superman is from Krypton and grew up in Smallville.

We need something new and refreshing. Batman Begins was sort of another origin but it was done in a different way, they didn't go way back to Bruce's childhood, they showed it through flashbacks.

Also, people have a different preference for Krypton, since there's no general agreement to what it looks like. The crystal planet could just be updated with more stuff. They've one this in STM, Smallville and SR, so it should stay that way.

URL- http://www.supermanhomepage.com/news.php?readmore=9605#comments

thecolorsblend wrote:
You kidding? They don't even know what the fuck they want!

Apologist douchenozzle wrote:#18 | Supereyes on April 15, 2011 2:43am EST
Please don't tell me they're going back to the origin, with Zod, Faora and a Non-type character, only a different Krypton. STM is a classic. That was the Superman movie, this should be a new Superman movie, but respectful of the original movie, so don't do the origin. Doesn't matter if this Superman isn't related to the CR Superman movies, it doesn't mean they have to go way back to Krypton. Flashbacks would be alright, showing the scenes and history or Krypton through Superman's training would be alright.

We know the origin story, people who don't like Superman might think this is lame, because just about everyone can tell you Superman is from Krypton and grew up in Smallville.

We need something new and refreshing. Batman Begins was sort of another origin but it was done in a different way, they didn't go way back to Bruce's childhood, they showed it through flashbacks.

Also, people have a different preference for Krypton, since there's no general agreement to what it looks like. The crystal planet could just be updated with more stuff. They've one this in STM, Smallville and SR, so it should stay that way.

URL- http://www.supermanhomepage.com/news.php?readmore=9605#comments

To summarize, we need something "new and refreshing" that's just like the "original".

webhead2006 wrote:I still see no bloody problem with zod or having origins retold. This is a new take on the characters so its timeto see why things are different and all that. Heck look at all superman toons/shows they all done origins here and there and each have there place. So doing it again isn't a problem.

non_amos wrote:The point is, that 34 years at this point may as well have been a LIFETIME!

non_amos wrote:And although 'iconic' the 1st film is, is it impossible to improve upon that?!

Father Finian wrote:

non_amos wrote:And although 'iconic' the 1st film is, is it impossible to improve upon that?!

Do what Snyder seems to be doing and do a new take on it. Look at the "improvements" Singer brought to the Donnerverse. Why bother?

I agree though, it is vital that the new film has nothing to do with the Donnerverse IMO, but forget notions of trying to "improve" a classic film. Maybe I am showing my age but I think it's always worth remembering that to many of us "oldies" Christopher Reeve is iconic, and will always be remembered as Superman no matter who or what comes next.

For instance:My enjoyment of Lois & Clark, Smallville or any of the animated features/series is not dulled or soured by memories of Reeve or STM, whereas I obviously still hold Singer and his boys in absolute contempt for what they tacked on and for having the gall to cast a plank of homosexual wood to play Christopher Reeve playing Superman.

non_amos wrote:I'm Diane Lane's age. But I don't really look my age.