Re: 6 Minute Prologue For TDKR attached to Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol

Apologist Puncher Mon Dec 19, 2011 1:01 am

thecolorsblend wrote:Hardly Bane's dialogue was tough to parse but... was accent is that? In various parts, it sounded like it could've been German, Russian or South American. Either there's a major goof up there or else the audio quality just isn't conclusive enough. It really could go either way.

I believe it is a little known dialect, common to uneducated, Third World-type area's called "Nolanese". The "people" who speak in Nolanese usually say things like this:

Thegoddamnbatman52 - 12/17/2011, 6:08 AM
Im not a fanboy at all or at lest i really try not to be but i love nolans batman film's and this trailer gave me chills and made me tear abit, WOMEN? I THINK NOT!

And:

TDKR72012 - 12/17/2011, 8:16 AM
I hate to say this to you haters and all those with have doubt... but..Hmmm? I can't hear your complaining and bitching over the Awesome Chanting of of millions of people for the most anticipated movie next year! LoL TDKR will be and epic legend and the best film of all time! Period! >X)

Or:

TDKR72012 - 12/17/2011, 8:24 AM
Look you some you here don't want to watch this or nothing good to say about the film. They bother being here to complain about it? Whats your moronic opinions matter? Eh? its Childish if you ask me, so please just go off here and say no more, we fans, people who have waited a long to for a epic film like to come out, don't wanna hear people like you saying idiotic crap about nothing. I made my point. Nuff said. >_O+

http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/BlahBlahNews/news/?a=51440

"People" who speak Nolanese should be ridiculed, mocked and generally derided for ever having existed.

It's the humane thing to do.

non_amos Mon Dec 19, 2011 2:21 am

What idiocy! I had to check the link you typed because it sounded like duh Homopage! Especially that last guy! The bad grammar, the nearly incomprehensible sentence structure, the whole 9 yards! Laughing

Back to my earlier point. Although Colors hasn't answered yet about the 'flipping the image' issue, I may have discovered what he's talking about anyway. It seems that the Youtube link I posted is still working & since then I've found one with an even better picture quality although it's not Youtube. I originally found the link to this particular one here:

http://www.1channel.ch/

It seems that 'TDKR' is no longer listed at this site but their 'sister' site has this link:

http://www.watchfreemovies.ch/watch-movies/2012/watch-the-dark-knight-rises-220564/

I haven't checked out any of those links (yet) & their selection doesn't look as plentiful as what the other site had but..........I did try this link (from the 1st site) which still worked while ago even after I rebooted my computer:

http://www.novamov.com/video/7edb8f819cf00

In this version the picture quality appears even clearer & crisper. However, any improvement in audio is probably negligible & I tend to think really not as good as the Youtube version I posted. But I noticed something major. In this newest version, everything somehow seems reversed! Think of it this way: right=left, left=right. In the Youtube version, the plane appears to go around the left side of a mountain. In this version, it appears to go around the right side. And so on & so forth, even with the directions characters walk in & everything. I just watched both again & this is crystal clear. How they do it though is what I don't understand. You'd think it'd somehow throw the film off or appear in reverse, i.e., like rewinding a VHS tape, but it's not. No one is moving in reverse, no one is speaking English backwards or anything. It's really like watching the same film, only it's like a 'mirror' image. It kinda reminds me of the principle that SMALLVILLE explained for 'Earth-3' as to how they exposed Lionel Luthor as not being the real Lionel, since his fingerprints were a 'mirror image' of the regular Lionel. Now I'm sure this ain't identical or anything but it does make me think of that.

Like I said, this last link still worked while ago. I might try some others. However, warning! Continued viewing of BEAN, er, I mean, 'Bane', will just further drive home the point of just how pathetic this really is!

thecolorsblend Mon Dec 19, 2011 3:34 am

non_amos wrote:Back to my earlier point. Although Colors hasn't answered yet about the 'flipping the image' issue, I may have discovered what he's talking about anyway. It seems that the Youtube link I posted is still working & since then I've found one with an even better picture quality although it's not Youtube. I originally found the link to this particular one here:

And...

non_amos wrote:In this version the picture quality appears even clearer & crisper. However, any improvement in audio is probably negligible & I tend to think really not as good as the Youtube version I posted. But I noticed something major. In this newest version, everything somehow seems reversed! Think of it this way: right=left, left=right. In the Youtube version, the plane appears to go around the left side of a mountain. In this version, it appears to go around the right side. And so on & so forth, even with the directions characters walk in & everything. I just watched both again & this is crystal clear.

That's pretty much what I meant. The "negative" is flipped in the posted YouTube video. It's not as tricky as it may seem. A lot of digital projectors permit this sort of thing as you may want to project from the front or from behind. Your method of projection will then dictate which "direction" the image is facing.

non_amos wrote:How they do it though is what I don't understand. You'd think it'd somehow throw the film off or appear in reverse, i.e., like rewinding a VHS tape, but it's not. No one is moving in reverse, no one is speaking English backwards or anything. It's really like watching the same film, only it's like a 'mirror' image.

Yep. To be fair, I said "flipped image" when probably "reversed image" might've been the better way to phrase it. Anyway. They're not reversing the flow of the movie exactly, they're simply altering the orientation of the image. It's a lot harder to describe than it is to make so here's a representation.

6 Minute Prologue For TDKR attached to Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol - Page 2 B010210_dreamgirl_process

6 Minute Prologue For TDKR attached to Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol - Page 2 B010210_dreamgirl_process

The figure drawn in purple is the same drawing but one is reversed. You can tell by the positioning of her arms.

Bug-Eyed Earl Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:42 am

Apologist Puncher wrote:
non_amos wrote:Yeah. The puny one!

And the prologue is still up. Unbelievable!

It goes to show that all the idiots thinking Nolan was going to do something to cover Hardly's diminutive stature were, well, idiots.

I said it was possible, but that it would require doubles and there had been no sightings of bigger dudes in Bane costumes at the time.

non_amos Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:24 am

http://www.superherohype.com/news/articles/169215-the-nolans-on-banes-voice-in-the-dark-knight-rises

The Nolans on Bane's Voice in The Dark Knight Rises
by SuperHeroHype
January 12, 2012

Did you have trouble understanding Tom Hardy's Bane in the prologue for The Dark Knight Rises that is playing in front of Mission: Impossible - Ghost Protocol in select IMAX theaters? You were not the only one.

However, both director Christopher Nolan and his co-writer and brother Jonathan Nolan say you have nothing to worry about. Talking to Entertainment Weekly, Chris Nolan said: "I think when people see the film, things will come into focus. Bane is very complex and very interesting and when people see the finished film people will be very entertained by him."

Jonah Nolan added the following when speaking to CraveOnline: "I gotta tell you, I think what Tom Hardy's doing with the role is spectacular. I have the benefit of seeing a little bit more than the audience has seen at this point. It's pretty spectacular."

He also talked about the prologue's action sequence in the air. "I think Chris had long wanted to do sort of the aerial spectacular. It's such a good fit for the IMAX cameras that he likes to shoot with and so that was a long time in the making."

Were you able to understand Bane? Do you worry about his voice in the full film opening on July 20?

And here we..........GO! Rolling Eyes

Apologist Puncher Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:54 am

non_amos Sat Jan 14, 2012 12:58 am

What he said!

thecolorsblend Sat Jan 14, 2012 1:53 am

Huh???

Apologist Puncher Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:02 am

thecolorsblend wrote:Huh???

6 Minute Prologue For TDKR attached to Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol - Page 2 Batman-vertical-bane-bop

non_amos Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:04 am

"For his role as 'Bane', Oscar Award nominee Tom Hardly!" Laughing

Apologist Puncher Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:05 am

non_amos wrote:"For his role as 'Bane', Oscar Award nominee Tom Hardly!"

Maybe a Grammy too???

6 Minute Prologue For TDKR attached to Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol - Page 2 Funny-celebrity-pictures-aint-no-sunshine-when-shes-gone

6 Minute Prologue For TDKR attached to Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol - Page 2 Funny-celebrity-pictures-aint-no-sunshine-when-shes-gone

non_amos Sat Jan 14, 2012 2:06 am

That must be when he destroys the football stadium. Suspect

thecolorsblend Sat Jan 14, 2012 3:24 am

non_amos wrote:That must be when he destroys the football stadium.

Heh, it does look like he's belting out a tune. "It's not unusual..."

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