"Superman Lives" production photos

webhead2006 wrote:I would also love to see jlm costumes.

webhead2006 wrote:Thanks ap for the link. From what I was reading on this suit it was his healing/resurection suit after he died.

Father Finian wrote:This is a great example of what I'm saying about a CGI Metropolis over a real city like New York.

K.I.S.S.-Keep It Simple, Stupid.

The fancy stylized designs are a risk. Look at how the brave designs in Singerman turned out. A real city is what it is. The classic Superman costume design is what it is. Leave well enough alone. There's too much riding on this next Superman.

Father Finian wrote:The fancy stylized designs are a risk. Look at how the brave designs in Singerman turned out. A real city is what it is.

Steve Johnson sat down with Fearnet to talk about his wonderful 30 year career in the VFX industries. While talking with them he was asked about Tim Burton's Superman Lives project, and more specifically about the suit he was designing for the film.

"Don't start with me on that! I've had it with these things on-line saying 'this suit is probably why the movie didn't get made' and blah blah blah. What people don't understand is pretty straight forward," said Johnson. He went on to explain that the suit that people have seen photos and video of was not the actual suit for the film but was a suit they designed to regenerate Superman with the help of an alien. Said Johnson, "It was never meant to be the actual Superman suit. Superman dies, in Tim Burton's version. He's wrapped around by this alien presence which I would assume someone in the comics came up with. It's a living life form on top of him that brings him back to life. So everybody looked at the suit and said "Jesus, Tim's lost his mind! Steve's doing too much blow!" That wasn't what happened! It was never meant to be the Superman suit. It was an alien wrapped around him. Let's put that on the record for once. Colleen Atwood designed all the Superman suits. We had the real one; we had the black one from the ending. But the one people have seen wasn't meant to be the Superman suit, it was an alien that was regenerating him and it was really that simple. I don't know why all the fans were getting so angry about that. If they were real fans, they would know!"

thecolorsblend wrote:The narrative that's been put out there has told a much different story. Far be it from me to disagree with someone who was actually involved in the production (such as it was) but when all you keep seeing is the weird, drugged out Superman outfits, sooner or later you start thinking that's what the son of a buck was going to look like in the final version. He needs to try and look at this from the other side a little bit.

Apologist Puncher wrote:

thecolorsblend wrote:The narrative that's been put out there has told a much different story. Far be it from me to disagree with someone who was actually involved in the production (such as it was) but when all you keep seeing is the weird, drugged out Superman outfits, sooner or later you start thinking that's what the son of a buck was going to look like in the final version. He needs to try and look at this from the other side a little bit.

I would like them to come out and show us EXACTLY what the suit looked like then. Is that creepy Nic Cage one real? What about the black & red "knife S" suit?

Prove us wrong with something real, or shut your bitching up.

thecolorsblend wrote:I don't know much about The Industry but I'm not sure it's quite that easy. When all that Burton concept art was getting leaked out while MOS was ramping up, my little black helicopter conspiracy theory was that someone from WB was behind the release of all that stuff to gauge fan reaction to a different outfit. The thing there is that the stuff is still copyrighted property of WB. That stuff doesn't get "leaked" unless (A) someone doesn't care about keeping his job or (B) someone pretty high up in the food chain is officially permitting the release.

The black costume and other stuff leaked while Singerman was gearing up... and in retrospect, I now realize that WB's goal was to make the Singerman tu-tu look better by comparison. "You think the Singerman wet suit sucks? Dude, look at the bullet(s) you dodged! It could be worse!" And sure 'nuff, "it could be worse" because a weird battle cry for the Apologists.

Anyway. Maybe the guy can release some stuff and I'm just ignorant about the industry. But I always assumed that it'd be more than his job is worth to release stuff without a Mother May I from WB.

"It could've been worse."

thecolorsblend wrote:

Talk whatever smack about this design you see fit, I think it's better than the Singerman thing. Speaking of, does that chest emblem look familiar to anyone else or is it just me?

Filmmaker turns to Kickstarter to fund Superman Lives documentary



Over the past decade or so, Superman Lives has achieved almost mythical status, a movie project so delightfully terrible that there’s no way it could possibly be true. Nicolas Cage as the Man of Steel, Chris Rock as Jimmy Olsen, Tim Allen as Brainiac — that’s the stuff of fever dreams.

However, Tim Burton’s nightmarish vision for the Last Son of Krypton almost became a reality, with roles cast, costumes created and Pittsburgh selected to double for Metropolis. And then in 1998, to the relief of many, Warner Bros. pulled the plug. But why, exactly?


That’s what writer/director Jon Schnepp (The Venture Bros., Metalocalypse) hopes to uncover in his proposed feature-length documentary The Death of ‘Superman Lives’: What Happened? The problem is, though, that he needs $98,000 to produce it. So he’s turned to Kickstarter.

“We could have had the weirdest Superman movie ever made,” he says in the introductory video. “Weird! Strange! Bizarre outfits! Rainbows! The weirdness level of this Superman movie beats any superhero film that’s ever been made. I mean, you had Ang Lee ‘Hulk dogs’? This is weirder. [...] For whatever reasons, it all fell apart right before they started shooting.”

Nothing if not ambitious, Schnepp hopes to interview people involved in every step of the process, from the concept artists and original writer Kevin Smith to Cage and Burton.

thecolorsblend wrote:It was posted on the Eunuch page. I just moved it over here as I suspect most of you probably don't check that page out very often.

non_amos wrote:You got that right! It's stuff like this that even makes me check them out these days. So if there was an article did it state what the deal was here?

Nicolas Cage Says Warner Bros. Were "Scared" To Make Tim Burton's SUPERMAN LIVES

The Ghost Rider and Kick-Ass star looks back on nearly playing the Man of Steel in Tim Burton's zany looking Superman Lives, and goes on to say that while he no longer reads comics "as a 49-year-old man", the genre does still have a very special place in his heart. Check it out!
By Josh Wilding - 12/10/2013

In an interview with Metro about the DVD and Blu-ray release of The Croods, Nicolas Cage was asked whether starring in animated movies like that has anything to do with his well-known love of comics books. As it turns out, he's no longer the fanboy you may have previously been led to believe! "Look, the truth is I’m not obsessed with comics," the Kick-Ass star revealed. "I don’t read comics as a 49-year-old man. Not that there’s anything wrong with that but I have other interests that are more in tune with where I’m at right now. But I’m loyal and I will never forget the impressions that comics gave me as a child. They are like primitive cartoons and those characters became like a modern mythology that’s touched the world. So animated movies are like cousins to comics."

As you may already know, Cage was at one point attached to star in Tim Burton's Superman Lives, and it would have retold the famous "Death of Superman" arc, with Brainiac and Doomsday set to be the villains. Asked how close he came to actually making the rather odd looking film with the director, Cage said: "Very close. Look, I’m not going to be one of these guys that’s going to be, like, lamenting things. But is Tim Burton one of my favourite directors? Yes. Did I see some of the drawings of where he wanted to go? Yes. And I will tell you, they were fantastic and it would have been a mind-blowing experience. Did I have a concept of how to play the character? Yes, and I can tell you it would have been gutsy. So maybe Warner Brothers got scared because they had two artists that weren’t afraid to take chances." Scared or one of the most sensible choices ever?