Re: NEW 'Justice League of America' Script In The Works

Father Finian Sat Apr 02, 2011 5:53 am

Apologist Puncher wrote:
Father Finian wrote:And just when you think we're all past the Welling vs Routh wars, here they go again! And now you can throw Cavill into the mix.

I've already noticed a few sheep around the place STILL hoping Ruth would make a reappearance. I'd imagine Welling would've moved on, but "Ruth gotta eat". I bet his "people" are on the phone already.

Once his shit-fest "Dylan Does Dogs" bombs it's way out of theaters, he is done for good.

And I for one can't wait.

When is that released over there? Bring it on and get him over and done with. I'm sure he won't be missed.

thecolorsblend Sat Apr 02, 2011 6:43 am

Father Finian wrote:When is that released over there? Bring it on and get him over and done with. I'm sure he won't be missed.

I had no idea so I checked out Wikipedia. To answer your question, it "comes out" (if we can use that term in reference to a BJ Routh movie) on 04.29.2011 in the good ol' US of A.

Even so, I wouldn't expect this thing to make too much of an impact though. Italian critics haven't been all that kind. Per Wikipedia:

Various Italian critics wrote:Reception
In Italy

Luca Raffaelli (la Repubblica), after watching the movie said "it's a good B-movie inspired to a great top-league European comic", and points out that the character of Brandon Routh "is void" while the original comic character "uses the horror to talk about modern society problems".[6]

Roberto Castrogiovanni (www.Movieplayer.it) tries not to compare the movie and the original comic, but still "not everything is perfect", and the biggest problem is "the starting plot and the development of the screenplay": the plot is predictable, dialogues are the usual stereotypes, and the main character is just the usual American action-man.[7]

Federica Aliano (www.Film.it) heavily criticized the movie, saying "it's far worse than any bad expectation" and highlighted the big difference with the original comic: "the mature feeling of Tiziano Sclavi's masterpiece is never achieved by using splatter and beautiful images, but by using psychological introspection and by projecting into reality the nightmares and fears of characters and readers".[8]

Federico Gironi (Coming Soon Television) refers to the movie without comparing it to the original comic, and notices many similarities with Underworld, Buffy the Vampire Slayer and True Blood, that make the movie "like baby food, good for an extremely young target without a deep sense of criticism", although the director "avoids to disappoint the audience and gets a couple of good gags".[9]

Negative reception also comes from Marco Lucio Papaleo (www.Everyeye.it), who gives the movie an overall score of 5 out of 10. "Technically Dylan Dog: Dead of Night is not bad, and sometimes even interesting. But it is not Dylan Dog. And even if all the names were changed, it would just be a nice movie, but actually already seen and useless".

From the sounds of it, Dylan Dog would be lucky to hit even Sucker Punch numbers. Yep, oh yeah, "2006's Biggest Star" strikes again. Yeesh...

non_amos Sat Apr 02, 2011 10:09 am

Interestingly, while watching a rerun of Supernatural last night (Fringe was a rerun too), there was a Dylan Dog commercial, I'd say somewhere around the 40 minute mark give or take. It was pretty much clips that we've already seen online, but the 1st scene they showed was of the 'topless BJ'. Gee, wonder why they did that? Wink

I don't know enough about the actual comic to say anything about that but the look of this is.....meh. Sam Worthington, who played 'Jimmy' & baked cakes for Clark in Singerman is also in this film, like BJ's sidekick, who becomes his zombie sidekick, but all's cool, right? Rolling Eyes

If you want a good, funny horror spoof, check out SHAUN OF THE DEAD. It's a British film & EVERYONE has British accents so it's hard at times for me to know exactly what they're trying to say due to their 'slang' but otherwise it's a good take on this type of material. It also stars Simon Pegg who went on to play 'Scotty' on JJ Abrams Star Trek reboot.

Apologist Puncher Sat Apr 02, 2011 9:54 pm

non_amos wrote:Interestingly, while watching a rerun of Supernatural last night (Fringe was a rerun too), there was a Dylan Dog commercial, I'd say somewhere around the 40 minute mark give or take. It was pretty much clips that we've already seen online, but the 1st scene they showed was of the 'topless BJ'. Gee, wonder why they did that?

Glad I missed it....

I don't know enough about the actual comic to say anything about that but the look of this is.....meh. Sam Worthington, who played 'Jimmy' & baked cakes for Clark in Singerman is also in this film, like BJ's sidekick, who becomes his zombie sidekick, but all's cool, right?

The only other film I saw Worthington in was 'Not Another Teen Movie'. So if his career goes down in flames alongside BJ's, I won't cry.

If you want a good, funny horror spoof, check out SHAUN OF THE DEAD. It's a British film & EVERYONE has British accents so it's hard at times for me to know exactly what they're trying to say due to their 'slang' but otherwise it's a good take on this type of material. It also stars Simon Pegg who went on to play 'Scotty' on JJ Abrams Star Trek reboot.

Loved it since I saw it years ago. 'Hot Fuzz' too, and I plan on seeing 'Paul' JUST for Pegg & Frost.

Those guys together are comedy gold.

thecolorsblend Sat Apr 02, 2011 10:27 pm

Apologist Puncher wrote:The only other film I saw Worthington in was 'Not Another Teen Movie'. So if his career goes down in flames alongside BJ's, I won't cry.

He had a two or three episode (or something like that) run on the first season of Veronica Mars (great show, btw, may it rest in peace). I thought he was kind of funny in that. Read somewhere that he and Aaron Ashmore were roommates for a while. Two Jimmy Olsens under the same roof...

Loved it since I saw it years ago. 'Hot Fuzz' too, and I plan on seeing 'Paul' JUST for Pegg & Frost.

Those guys together are comedy gold.

Couldn't agree more.

Apologist Puncher Sat Apr 02, 2011 11:20 pm

thecolorsblend wrote:He had a two or three episode (or something like that) run on the first season of Veronica Mars (great show, btw, may it rest in peace). I thought he was kind of funny in that. Read somewhere that he and Aaron Ashmore were roommates for a while. Two Jimmy Olsens under the same roof...

That show cried "Chloe Sullivan Rip-Off In Progress" every time I saw a commercial, down to the hairstyle and clothing. So I never watched it.

Couldn't agree more.

I'm planning on buying the entire series 'Spaced', just to see Pegg and Frost.

It's pretty cheap on Amazon.

Father Finian Sun Apr 03, 2011 10:41 pm

thecolorsblend wrote:
Loved it since I saw it years ago. 'Hot Fuzz' too, and I plan on seeing 'Paul' JUST for Pegg & Frost.

Those guys together are comedy gold.
Couldn't agree more.

Yeah. I've got to get you guys into the new "Doctor Who"

Apologist Puncher Sun Apr 03, 2011 10:47 pm

Father Finian wrote:Yeah. I've got to get you guys into the new "Doctor Who"

What did he get his PhD in?

Father Finian Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:29 am

Apologist Puncher wrote:
Father Finian wrote:Yeah. I've got to get you guys into the new "Doctor Who"

What did he get his PhD in?

Time Travel and English humour

thecolorsblend Mon Apr 04, 2011 3:31 am

thecolorsblend wrote:Veronica Mars (great show, btw, may it rest in peace)

Apologist Puncher wrote:That show cried "Chloe Sullivan Rip-Off In Progress" every time I saw a commercial, down to the hairstyle and clothing. So I never watched it.

I can see that. But no. Once you accept that Veronica could find Jimmy Hoffa if she were to put her mind to it, it's a great show.

Apologist Puncher Mon Apr 04, 2011 11:25 pm

Father Finian wrote:Time Travel and English humour

Interesting combination. Has he been practicing long?

Father Finian Wed Apr 06, 2011 5:21 am

Apologist Puncher wrote:
Father Finian wrote:Time Travel and English humour

Interesting combination. Has he been practicing long?

Only since 1963.

Pegg appeared in an episode a few years back.

Apologist Puncher Wed Apr 06, 2011 11:32 pm

Father Finian wrote:[Only since 1963.

Pegg appeared in an episode a few years back.

Will my HMO work with him, or will I have to switch to a PPO?

And check this out. HI-LARIOUS:

Father Finian Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:23 am

He's a nut! Funny stuff.

Apologist Puncher Mon Apr 11, 2011 12:38 am

Father Finian wrote:He's a nut! Funny stuff.

"Are we actually fighting?"

"I DON'T KNOW!"

"Weeeoooooo"

Love it.

webhead2006 Fri Nov 11, 2011 1:40 pm

Ha take this story as grain of salt:
http://comicbookmovie.com/fansites/JakeLester/news/?a=49700

Rumor: Justice League Movie In The Works After Superman And Green Lantern Sequels
A recent report is stating that Warner Brothers is looking to push forward with a Justice League project that will happen after sequels for Man of Steel and Green Lantern.

Now take this with a huge grain of salt, but the people over at Cosmic Book News seem to have some information regarding Warner Brothers plans to do a Justice League movie. According to their information the Justice League movie would happen after sequels for Zack Snyder's Man Of Steel and Martian Campbell's Green Lantern. WB is wanting Christopher Nolan to be involved with the project some how, with Geoff Johns to write a treatment for the film. After Johns does his treatment the hope is that they can bring in David Goyer to pen the final screen play. The plan is for Henry Cavill and Ryan Reynolds to reprise their roles of Superman and Green Lantern respectively. As of right now there is now plan for Christen Bale to reprise his role as Bruce Wayne/Batman for the film as well.

Here is the full report from Cosmic Book News:

Plans are being put together for Justice League movie for either a 2015 or 2016 release.

DC Entertainment will be spearheading the film, and it will be distributed by Warner Bros. and Legendary Pictures.

Geoff Johns, DC Comics Chief Creative Officer and Co-Producer on the Green Lantern movie, will be on the Justice League movie as an Executive Producer, and will be doing the initial treatment for the film before a writer is brought on to pen the screenplay.

David Goyer (screenwriter on Man of Steel) is said to be the initial favorite for the screenplay.

As Johns hasn't started work on the treatment yet, story details will not be made known, just production details within the next few months as to what it will hold.

The reason for the later release date is to get the movie right and do it proper.

They want Christopher Nolan and wife, Emma Thomas, to be involved in the film in some capacity, most likely as producers. Don't expect Christian Bale as Batman; it will be a new actor in the role.
However, Henry Cavill and Ryan Reynolds could appear as their respective characters, Superman and Green Lantern -- but it is too early to tell.

There is a strong indication that the Justice League movie will be part of a shared universe.

WB wants another Superman movie released before Justice League; however, don't expect that story to be compromised for Justice League, as the next Superman film will still be treated as a stand alone film.

Another Green Lantern film before Justice League is also a possibility. It's being said the Green Lantern sequel will definitely be better than the first as Sinestro will be the villain, and also that the sequel will act as the first step towards a joint universe in which hints towards other heroes can be intergrated more easily (than lets say a Superman sequel).

Once again take this with a huge pinch of salt, because nothing has been confirmed yet. If this is true though what do you think of a Justice League movie with Cavill and Supes and Reynolds as GL? As usual leave your comments in the comment boxes below.
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As much as I do want to see a jl movie. Its still doubtful we will ever in the next few yrs see one. With dc still not on the right ball just yet.

Comicbookfan-V2 Sat Nov 12, 2011 6:14 pm

Not to mention there hasen't been any word on other DC characters making their film debut also before "Justice League" since, you know... It's suppose to be a film that dosen't just feature only Superman, Batman & Green Lantern alone!

webhead2006 Sat Nov 12, 2011 8:21 pm

ya with batman right now only series that worked for them. Superman failed and now is getting rebooted and still a yr from screening. Gl bombed so that kills gl series for awhile. Flash hasn't gotten out of developmental stages. And we don't need to mention the issues with ww. Dc just hasn't gotten on right peg yet and are still likely yrs from that happening. Then of course if nolans/bale have no invovlement in jl baman. They would have to recast role and they likely would want to have a solo film out first with new bats. And with how it takes 2-3 yrs give or take for a film to go from pre production/planning stage to filming and release. We are likely not going to see jl to 2020ish. Just cause we likely get new batman by 2014, superman 2 by 2015, then maybe shoot for flash and or ww between 2014-2016. So then if that all happened and where success enough for studio then jl probably 2017-2020. But by this time we likely will have see two more sequels from thor/captain america, avengers sequels, and antman/dr. Strange films off the ground from marvel.

Comicbookfan-V2 Sun Nov 13, 2011 9:36 am

webhead2006 wrote:So then if that all happened and where success enough for studio then jl probably 2017-2020. But by this time we likely will have see two more sequels from thor/captain america, avengers sequels, and antman/dr. Strange films off the ground from marvel.

Thats just give me another reason to hate those who work behind the WB studio for never taking their heads out of their asses and get things done right for once! All they have to do is hire the right people to write a good script and direct whatever DC based project was greenlighted just like Marvel did with their projects! Course if they hired someone else instead of Bryan Singer or aleast compel him to reboot Superman rather than continuate in the Donnerverse then we would be getting and seeing sequels already not to mention film debuts of other DC characters alot earlier and have a JL film prepared to compete against "The Avengers"! But nooo!!! Singer eventually screwed up and the WB is back to square one with it's DC based properties thus causing Marvel to once again remain ahead leaving Batman the only DC based property that was successful!

THANKS A FUCKING LOT BRYAN!!! Mad

webhead2006 Sun Nov 13, 2011 2:23 pm

Totally. What wb/dc should have done awhile ago is develop a wing for dc stuff. Like we got with marvel studios. Then they need someone like kevin frige is for marvel to hire the right directors/producers/writers. But wb still doesn't get it and like I said there lack of faith in things is making them look bad. The odd thing is though they get it right most of the time. With there animated work. But just can't take that into live action window. Where its reverse for marvel they got live action going good. But there more. recent fairs in dtv haven't been to good.

Comicbookfan-V2 Sun Nov 13, 2011 7:18 pm

webhead2006 wrote:The odd thing is though they get it right most of the time. With there animated work. But just can't take that into live action window. Where its reverse for marvel they got live action going good. But there more. recent fairs in dtv haven't been to good.

It's kind of strange how DC characters were portray better on the small screen (Animation especially) than on the big screen, I mean how is it easy to get it done right on the small screen and yet it's hard to get it done right on the big screen? Makes no sense!

But I have to agree Marvel may have more hits than misses on big screen projects but it's projects on the small screen on the other hand dosen't fair as much, they may have quite a few but just not alot! Aleast thats one of the things DC has over Marvel and that is better animated projects dispite Marvel being ahead of the game from the get-go (On the small screen before the big screen).

kivara Sun Nov 13, 2011 8:52 pm

Comicbookfan-V2 wrote:
webhead2006 wrote:So then if that all happened and where success enough for studio then jl probably 2017-2020. But by this time we likely will have see two more sequels from thor/captain america, avengers sequels, and antman/dr. Strange films off the ground from marvel.

Thats just give me another reason to hate those who work behind the WB studio for never taking their heads out of their asses and get things done right for once! All they have to do is hire the right people to write a good script and direct whatever DC based project was greenlighted just like Marvel did with their projects! Course if they hired someone else instead of Bryan Singer or aleast compel him to reboot Superman rather than continuate in the Donnerverse then we would be getting and seeing sequels already not to mention film debuts of other DC characters alot earlier and have a JL film prepared to compete against "The Avengers"! But nooo!!! Singer eventually screwed up and the WB is back to square one with it's DC based properties thus causing Marvel to once again remain ahead leaving Batman the only DC based property that was successful!

THANKS A FUCKING LOT BRYAN!!!

Totally agree!

If a proper reboot that was successful was made back in 06, we now would be looking forward to a third Superman movie in this new series. Unfortunately we now have to f**king wait for a year and a half for MOS. Mad

thecolorsblend Mon Nov 14, 2011 12:57 am

Comicbookfan-V2 wrote:But I have to agree Marvel may have more hits than misses on big screen projects but it's projects on the small screen on the other hand dosen't fair as much, they may have quite a few but just not alot! Aleast thats one of the things DC has over Marvel and that is better animated projects dispite Marvel being ahead of the game from the get-go (On the small screen before the big screen).

Well, putting aside the fact that they're two different media, it makes sense on the grounds that the film division tend to hire "visionaries" and "names" rather than people committed to translating the subject matter in a way that makes sense for film while the TV folks tend to start with people who are fans of the material and understand the mechanics of storytelling on the small screen and then turn 'em loose on the characters.

Marvel started out with an Avengers movie in mind and then built the railroad to get there. They didn't try to throw together existing franchises. Rather, they developed those franchises specifically to build toward an Avengers movie. It really confuses me when people say that Marvel hasn't approached their films with an agenda. The hell they haven't. They absolutely have. They've simply done so with a different objective than WB has.

The marketability of Marvel characters vs. DC characters could likely play a part in this discussion but in the big picture the issue is that Marvel isn't afraid of continuity in film and, in fact, openly embraces while WB is more committed to developing individual franchises that may or may not gel well when put together.

I hope this story is true but the starting point seems to involve a Batman originally set in a pretty realistic universe, a Green Lantern set in an otherwise realistic universe but for the Guardians and the overall GL Corps and a Superman movie with an as yet unknown tonal approach. From the outset, it's tough to say how this will all play out but I've wondered if the eventual JLA film will be able to support characters that were largely set in such potentially disparate universes being forced together in a way that wasn't originally planned or (in Nolan's case) even intended.

That the decision was made to cut Clark Kent's cameo from the GL movie should just about tell you how committed WB ever was to setting up a shared universe.

Apologist Puncher Tue Nov 15, 2011 12:13 am

The Bros. Warner haven't known what to do with their characters since they bought DC Comics. We could have had a Justice League movie 20-25 years ago. Nothing, NOTHING held them back from doing so.

Except short-sightedness.

thecolorsblend Tue Nov 15, 2011 2:00 am

Apologist Puncher wrote:The Bros. Warner haven't known what to do with their characters since they bought DC Comics. We could have had a Justice League movie 20-25 years ago. Nothing, NOTHING held them back from doing so.

Except short-sightedness.

Not sure I agree with that. Batman was under the leadership of Tim Burton at the time and the various Superman rights had been divvied up among Gorum-Globus Group and the Salkinds right around then. And then there was the Flash TV show to think about. A Justice League of America film without Superman, Batman or the Flash... well, you can call it anything you like but that ain't a Justice League film in MY book.

From there, Schumacher took over on the Batman films and ABC ran with Lois & Clark. Then SV started up.

I guess what I'm driving at here is that, in WB's defense, they've rarely (if ever) had a really good opportunity for to build up to a Justice League of America film. Of course, Batman Begins was a chance to start changing all that but, prior to then, I'd argue that the film division's hands were tied a good bit of the time.

There is no excusing anything after 2005 though...

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