Batman in World's Finest/MOS II (casting, costuming, continuity)

thecolorsblend Sun Jul 21, 2013 12:34 am

I've seen a few names bandied about for who will play Batman in MOS II in several places. The most common names seem to be:

(A) Karl Urban
(B) Michael Fassbender
(C) Liam Hemsworth
(D) Armie Hammer
(E) Christian Bale

Me, I don't have a dog in that fight other than "Anybody But Bale". Fortunately, I don't think that'll be too much of an issue. Not with Snyder on the job.

Still, there is the small matter of distinguishing this Batman from Nolan's. Easier done than said in some ways. A Nite-Owl type costume, an actual Batmobile and Ben Kingsley as Alfred should do the job nicely.

As for a Batmobile, might I recommend a fixed up Lamborghini Veneno?

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Apologist Puncher Mon Jul 22, 2013 10:40 pm

Guy Pearce, even though his age is a factor. A big one.

Michael Pitt. 'Boardwalk Empire'.

Liam Hemsworth. Maybe.

thecolorsblend Mon Jul 22, 2013 11:15 pm

Apologist Puncher wrote:Guy Pearce, even though his age is a factor. A big one.

Michael Pitt. 'Boardwalk Empire'.

Liam Hemsworth. Maybe.

Hemsworth works for me because his age makes him franchise-friendly. Plus, there'd be no question as to which came first. I can already foresee this will be a pissing match between Superman and Batman fans for the next two years.

thecolorsblend Wed Jul 24, 2013 2:06 am

Tyler Hoechlin's name is apparently making the rounds. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyler_Hoechlin

I know nothing about the dude, the only thing I ever saw him in was Road to Perdition when he was a kid and that probably isn't representative of his skills now, don't know his height or anything. Going strictly by his facial features, I must say I've seen far less credible names pop up.

Completely separately, but this raises a point though. Is it worth it to be completely faithful to Bruce's comic book appearance? For aesthetic diversity as compared to Cavill if nothing else, might casting directors also consider blonde or redheaded actors? I tend to buy into the idea that casting actors who look very different from one another lets audiences better connect to each individual character.

Should Snyder stick with the usual darker-featured type like Bale or go a bit more outside the box?

non_amos Wed Jul 24, 2013 10:35 am

I clicked on that link & see what you're saying. I don't know squat about him either but he might could fulfill the look. The chicks would probably dig him too which would be a selling point to the female audience. Unfortunately it'd be a selling point to another audience too if you get my drift? But whatever. Like they say in wrestling, it's all about 'putting butts in the seats'.

As for the hair color, I prefer they stick with tradition. I know for Lois Lane they used a redhead in Amy Adams but as has been pointed out before, Lois sometimes had red hair anyway like in the George Reeves TV series. I can deal with that but Bruce Wayne as a blonde? I'm not really on board with that. Ironically Christopher Reeve was blondish but they died his hair for Superman & he then became the Superman for an entire generation. But didn't they already go for a blondish Batman in Val Kilmer? It's been some time since I watched Batman Forever but I know Kilmer's hair ain't as dark as some who play the character.

thecolorsblend Wed Jul 24, 2013 5:11 pm

non_amos wrote:I clicked on that link & see what you're saying. I don't know squat about him either but he might could fulfill the look. The chicks would probably dig him too which would be a selling point to the female audience. Unfortunately it'd be a selling point to another audience too if you get my drift? But whatever. Like they say in wrestling, it's all about 'putting butts in the seats'.

That actually doesn't bother me. (A) It's inevitable and (B) their money is as green as anybody else's. If they get into these characters and movies, hey, the more, the merrier. I'm blanking on the guy's name now but there was such a person who served as a staffer at the Eunuch page. You would've had to go a pretty long way to find a bigger CLois/Smallville shipper than him (before he passed away). So that stuff is fine. My only issue is when the characters or stories are somehow changed so as to accommodate that subculture. That's where the problems come in for me.

non_amos wrote:As for the hair color, I prefer they stick with tradition. I know for Lois Lane they used a redhead in Amy Adams but as has been pointed out before, Lois sometimes had red hair anyway like in the George Reeves TV series. I can deal with that but Bruce Wayne as a blonde? I'm not really on board with that. Ironically Christopher Reeve was blondish but they died his hair for Superman & he then became the Superman for an entire generation. But didn't they already go for a blondish Batman in Val Kilmer? It's been some time since I watched Batman Forever but I know Kilmer's hair ain't as dark as some who play the character.

I realize I don't have an orthodox opinion on the matter (and this might come off as hypocritical considering what I wrote above) but I really dig both Schumacher Batman films and especially Val Kilmer as Batman. It's never bothered me that Bruce is a blonde/dirty blonde in that movie. That doesn't necessarily make casting a blonde this time around a smart idea, of course. I'm just saying the one time it was ever attempted, I thought it turned out really well.

lib Fri Jul 26, 2013 5:24 pm

i think i mentioned it before - my vote for batman would be ryan gosling. i think he can pull off being batman.

actually - if they plan on going with the "older more experienced" batman like is being rumoured, i change my vote to jon hamm.

thecolorsblend Fri Jul 26, 2013 7:44 pm

FFS, Gosling? Seriously?

lib Tue Aug 06, 2013 10:41 pm

wow....been reading that josh brolin is WB's favourite for batman.

Apologist Puncher Tue Aug 06, 2013 11:34 pm

lib wrote:wow....been reading that josh brolin is WB's favourite for batman.

That was debunked by Duh HomoPage. They haven't even worked out a title yet.

thecolorsblend Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:18 am

I'm wondering how much stock we should even put in these older Batman rumors. I realize that WB is facing a bit of a time-crunch if they want to meet that insane summer 2015 deadline (insane because of the competition) but I can't wrap my head around some of these names. Apparently Manganiello's name has popped up some place or another.

Look, I realize all Batman fans have a severe case of penile envy over Superman and the fact that he was created a year earlier than Batman and singlehandedly created superheroes and they'll never make peace with that but I can't help thinking that Goyer, Batman fanboy that he is, wants to set it up so that Batman somehow existed before Superman in this continuity. Because Batman can't be allowed to be seen as a follower of any kind. God forbid!

Fucking Batman fans, I swear...

non_amos Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:27 am

What bothers me is that Snyder seems to be 'kow-towing' to duh brothers now as far as 'what they want'. Ya know, he & Goyer delivered this new awesome Superman, right? Of course 'godfathered' by duh Nolan. Anyway, a new awesome Superman. So you'd think they'd want to continue that story arc & character development, etc., but now Snyder is bowing to 'what they want'. Sure, they sign the checks I guess but gimme a break, someone put their foot down somewhere! It's almost like Snyder & Goyer are now gonna become 'WB puppets' or something. I'm willing to bet that duh Nolan didn't get the same treatment with his trilogy. Ya think?!

thecolorsblend Thu Aug 08, 2013 12:42 am

non_amos wrote:What bothers me is that Snyder seems to be 'kow-towing' to duh brothers now as far as 'what they want'. Ya know, he & Goyer delivered this new awesome Superman, right? Of course 'godfathered' by duh Nolan. Anyway, a new awesome Superman. So you'd think they'd want to continue that story arc & character development, etc., but now Snyder is bowing to 'what they want'. Sure, they sign the checks I guess but gimme a break, someone put their foot down somewhere! It's almost like Snyder & Goyer are now gonna become 'WB puppets' or something. I'm willing to bet that duh Nolan didn't get the same treatment with his trilogy. Ya think?!

Yes, let's talk about that. Is Snyder kow-towing to WB? Maybe... but I really get the idea this is where his story naturally goes. Maybe WB have "encouraged" Goyer and Snyder to go this direction since we all know how badly they've wanted a Superman/Batman movie for so many years now but if Goyer and Snyder didn't want to do it, they could politely tell WB "no thanks" and either WB would give in or Goyer/Snyder would find other movies to do, no hard feelings. And odds are they'd take Nolan's name and cred with them when they left, which I'm sure WB is well aware of. The fact that this is happening on Goyer and Snyder's watch tells me that they're friendly to a team-up film and may even have dreamed the idea up themselves. For everything else I can say about how this might shake out, I just can't convince myself that WB are the boogeymen controlling things from behind the scenes.

thecolorsblend Sat Aug 10, 2013 10:41 pm

Comic Book Movie wrote:Okay, the latest rumor is that Orlando Bloom is the top contender to play Gotham's Dark Knight opposite Henry Cavill in Zack Snyder's Man of Steel sequel, Batman Vs. Superman. This is coming from The Daily Express, so it has to be true, right?

Once Warner Bros. announced the Man of Steel sequel at this year's San Diego Comic-Con, many fans wanted to know who would takeover for Christian Bale as Bruce Wayne/Batman. Since then, site after site, has claimed that they know who is the number one contender to play the Caped Crusader, or at least have a good idea of who is on WB's shortlist. We've heard names like Matthew Goode, Ryan Gosling, Jeffrey Dean Morgan, Josh Brolin, Scott Adkins and Gerard Butler being in the mix, and that isn't even all of them. But now, you can add Orlando Bloom's name to that list.

But a senior source at Warner Bros studio confirmed: “Orlando looks odds-on to get the part even before our first casting call.

"He would be perfect to play off Henry and I think US audiences would be happy with two Brits as the joint male leads."

The 36-year-old actor is best known for playing Will Turner in three Pirates of the Caribbean films, and Legolas in Peter Jackson's epic fantasy-adventure trilogies, The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit. Outside of those two lucrative roles, Orlando's acting career has failed to bloom, with domestic stinkers like, The Three Musketeers and Elizabethtown. But don't feel too bad for him, the man is married to Australian model Miranda Kerr.

Source: express.co.uk

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non_amos Sat Aug 10, 2013 11:16 pm

Not sure how to take that about Bloom. With a grain of salt I guess. I suppose it'd add a certain amount of star power & revive Bloom's career at the same time. And I'm sure the women would like him being cast (and others). I did like his role in the Pirates films but to tell you the truth he hasn't even entered into mind for Batman until I read that article. So I dunno.

Jeffrey Dean Morgan seems to be getting mentioned a lot. Loved him as both John Winchester and the Comedian & he's an awesome actor but at 47 I just don't think that's the direction they should go. He'd sure play a physical role though that's for certain.

I'll tell you who my pick is now after some thought: Patrick Wilson. Don't know why I didn't think of it sooner. I know, I know, he's like 40 himself now but still looks young enough I suppose to fill at least a few films anyway (think RDJ), namely Superman/Batman, JLA & maybe 1 or 2 Bat-solo films.

Why do I nominate Wilson? It's pretty simple: Dan Dreiberg AKA Nite Owl II! But Watchmen ain't what initially brought him to my attention.

In the past few days I was on Box Office Mojo looking up MOS numbers & also checked out the numbers for The Conjuring, a very popular horror film out now. I noticed Patrick Wilson was in the cast but why that's relevant is because I seem to remember his name coming up in the past week or more for Batman/Bruce Wayne but I don't remember where. Anyway, I hadn't really gave the name Patrick Wilson a lot of thought, that is, until I saw his picture in stills from his latest film & put '2 & 2' together & realized it was the same guy from Watchmen.

So when I realized who he is, you have to admit, he played an awesome Nite Owl! And consider this. The way he played Nite Owl was probably the way that Batman should've been played in duh Nolan films & I don't think it's any secret that Nite Owl is a ripoff of Batman anyway. And at least Wilson didn't phone in his performance.

Based on Watchmen alone I'd consider him. And personally I think he'd be a better choice than Matthew Goode who is also being named, the same guy who played Ozymandias. Snyder has supposedly met with him. So why not meet with Wilson?

Apologist Puncher Sun Aug 11, 2013 9:59 pm

His receding hairline will keep him out of consideration. Wouldn't fit the "playboy" look they will be after.

As for Bloom? Gimme a break.....

thecolorsblend Thu Aug 15, 2013 12:19 am

I admit that the only reason I'd accept Bloome is he's about the same age as or maybe younger than Cavill so nobody can sneak in any of that "Batman was around before Superman" shit.

Anyway. I've floated Armie Hammer's name a few times but apparently he took himself out of the running recently. Haven't been able to find a source for it but he apparently went on the record saying that playing Batman is not in the cards for him even if someone makes an offer to him... which, he was careful to add, NOBODY has.

Apologist Puncher Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:33 am

He's going to be in "U.N.C.L.E" with Cavill, so thankfully he'll NEVER be Batman.

thecolorsblend Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:58 am

Apologist Puncher wrote:He's going to be in "U.N.C.L.E" with Cavill, so thankfully he'll NEVER be Batman.

Didn't Michael Keaton and Chris Reeve do a movie together? I don't think that would've prevented a WF movie in those days. Tons of other things would've but not that.

Apologist Puncher Wed Aug 21, 2013 7:57 pm

thecolorsblend wrote:
Apologist Puncher wrote:He's going to be in "U.N.C.L.E" with Cavill, so thankfully he'll NEVER be Batman.
Didn't Michael Keaton and Chris Reeve do a movie together? I don't think that would've prevented a WF movie in those days. Tons of other things would've but not that.

They would have to jump from `U.N.C.L.E` to `Worlds Finest` immediately. It would just look too strange.

Plus, Hammer is box-office poison right now...

thecolorsblend Wed Aug 21, 2013 8:31 pm

Apologist Puncher wrote:
thecolorsblend wrote:
Apologist Puncher wrote:He's going to be in "U.N.C.L.E" with Cavill, so thankfully he'll NEVER be Batman.
Didn't Michael Keaton and Chris Reeve do a movie together? I don't think that would've prevented a WF movie in those days. Tons of other things would've but not that.
They would have to jump from `U.N.C.L.E` to `Worlds Finest` immediately. It would just look too strange.

Plus, Hammer is box-office poison right now...

And there's that. Don't get me wrong, I haven't seen The Lone Ranger either but is that movie's turd-bomb performance even his fault?

Since we're on the subject of casting though, Wes Bentley's name is making the rounds again. (A) He's a better choice than Orlando Bloom and (B) if memory serves he's about the same age as Cavill or maybe a bit younger. Plus, he's a good actor. Couldn't tell you much about his height or his build but he's got a vaguely Bruce Wayne'ish face in my view. So hmm.

lib Mon Aug 26, 2013 9:47 pm

Just read online that Bryan Cranston signed a six picture deal to appear as Lex Luthor. Not sure how true it is though. Just read it on yahoo.

non_amos Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:15 pm

lib wrote:Just read online that Bryan Cranston signed a six picture deal to appear as Lex Luthor. Not sure how true it is though. Just read it on yahoo.

I've seen that rumor too even on Facebook reports. It may be good if true but I do have to wonder about the validity of the Yahoo report. Here's why:

http://gma.yahoo.com/5-best-superhero-villains-big-screen-202804899--abc-news-entertainment.html

It's believed that the "Breaking Bad" star has brokered a deal to appear as Luthor in at least six films from Marvel Studios, though no official announcement is likely to be made until the conclusion of the final season of Cranston's hit AMC show.

So ya see, Yahoo can't even get their facts straight. Marvel Studios?! It's no wonder then that I disagree with much of the rest of that article. No need to remake General Zod? Michael Keaton being a forgettable Batman? Giime a break! Rolling Eyes

thecolorsblend Mon Aug 26, 2013 10:16 pm

lib wrote:Just read online that Bryan Cranston signed a six picture deal to appear as Lex Luthor. Not sure how true it is though. Just read it on yahoo.

I'm finding articles posted within the last 3-12 hours but they mostly use conditional language like "reportedly" or "possibly". Nobody reputable seems willing to put their balls on the line and say for sure one way or the other.

lib Tue Aug 27, 2013 9:59 am

http://wallstcheatsheet.com/stocks/the-batman-choice-is-unpopular-but-what-about-lex-luthor.html/?a=viewall

Matt Damon as Aquaman or Martian Manhunter.... that's fucking hilarious. Matt Damon is like what... 5' 8"
God...it's so easy to start rumours.

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