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Post  thecolorsblend on Tue Jul 19, 2011 11:56 am

Father Finian wrote:Guys, in none of the films are you going to find literal interpretations of a comic book. What may work in a comic doesn't always translate to the moving image on a big screen, or the narrative structure of what needs to be a crowd pleasing movie.
Those are my main arguments against adapting storylines like Doomsday or Knightfall, particularly in live action.

I can't see how one can criticize the Nolanverse for it's "liberties" when the Burtonverse, Donner, Smallville, etc, etc all have their own unique variations on the already many various comic interpretations.
Most of the deviations Burton made were to either flesh out fairly hollow characters (ie, the Penguin and Catwoman) or to in some way or another serve the other characters (ie, the Joker).

Donner absolutely took liberties with the narrative and I've called him on it many times.

There's a strange perception that SV ran away and did it's own thing entirely with the material. (A) That's not entirely true; the majority of stuff going on in SV often had some kind of precedent in the comics and (B) even where it is true, per capita SV did it no more often and to no worse a result than other media. Plus, I would add that as SV was a TV show, it could get by with goofing something up as there was would be another episode the following week and thus another chance to get it right.

But you're willing to keep an open mind about the redesign comic Superman because of the people involved??
I'm giving it a free chance specifically because I'm a lot less invested in Superman comics now than I've ever been before. Had this happened a few years ago, I would've freaked out. On the other hand, I strongly suspect the outfit will eventually be changed back to the traditional version.

Like Nolan hasn't found success getting DC characters to resonate with the ticket buying public in critically applauded movies. WTF more do you want to qualify as a "pass"????
I couldn't care less what the ticket buying public thinks. From what I've heard and seen so far, his version of Bane will be a complete joke. If the general public laps it up anyway, that's not my issue. There's no accounting for taste.

That's what we call down here "rusted on". I'd have thought that a defender of "Green Lantern" could buy into just about anything.... Very Happy
I don't think I defend it, I just like it for what it was. I'm not a big expert on GL's mythos, I just enjoyed the movie as mostly brainless entertainment.
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Post  webhead2006 on Tue Jul 19, 2011 12:25 pm

I do still wonder why nolan picked bane for hardy. When he would have been more suited to black mask, riddler, hugo strange or others.
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Post  Father Finian on Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:22 pm

thecolorsblend wrote:From what I've heard and seen so far, his version of Bane will be a complete joke. If the general public laps it up anyway, that's not my issue. There's no accounting for taste.

No, we can all see that just about everytime you post lately.....Green Lantern boy. Sorry, but your thoughts on that turkey once and for all convinced me when it comes to films you know shit. Your thoughts on STM were enough, but it's clear from your post above you are a hypocrite and can't see it. You fly your hypocrisy and double standards for all to see but yourself. Odd, very odd. You can't seriously suggest that "Batman Returns" is a better FILM than the last two from Nolan? Don't answer, that's what's called a rhetorical question because we already know your response.

Anyway, if you watched the trailer you can clearly see Bane still climbing steps as he faces Batman, with Batman getting ready to defend himself (fight) as Bane is stretching out to his full, towering size. Did it ever occur to you Brainiacs that Hardy may not be in the full appliance/costume?

You are a fuckin joke mate because you're calling out a film that's still a YEAR away based on rumor and your well know bias.


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Post  Father Finian on Tue Jul 19, 2011 9:23 pm

thecolorsblend wrote:I don't think I defend it, I just like it for what it was. I'm not a big expert on GL's mythos, I just enjoyed the movie as mostly brainless entertainment.

I rest my case, your Honour.

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Post  Apologist Puncher on Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:28 pm

Father Finian wrote:Guys, in none of the films are you going to find literal interpretations of a comic book. What may work in a comic doesn't always translate to the moving image on a big screen, or the narrative structure of what needs to be a crowd pleasing movie.

This is true.

BUT, when it comes to casting a character known for ONE THING, you can't toss it out the window and hope no one notices. Hardy is just too short and not convincing enough to play a character like Bane. Nolan has NEVER been one to rely on CGI in his films, so you need to understand where the skepticism originates from.

I can't see how one can criticize the Nolanverse for it's "liberties" when the Burtonverse, Donner, Smallville, etc, etc all have their own unique variations on the already many various comic interpretations.

I have ALWAYS been one to call a spade a spade. You should know that by now.

But you're willing to keep an open mind about the redesign comic Superman because of the people involved?? Like Nolan hasn't found success getting DC characters to resonate with the ticket buying public in critically applauded movies. WTF more do you want to qualify as a "pass"????

Fuck NO I'm NOT. This stupid re-fuckover is going to spell the end of Superman as a comic book character.

Mark my words.

That's what we call down here "rusted on". I'd have thought that a defender of "Green Lantern" could buy into just about anything.... Very Happy

I've made my feelings on 'Green Lantern' VERY clear.

Seriously Father, don't lump everyone who has issue's with Nolan's choices into a single group.

So for you are 0 for 3 when it comes to me.

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Post  Father Finian on Wed Jul 20, 2011 4:34 am

Apologist Puncher wrote:Nolan has NEVER been one to rely on CGI in his films, so you need to understand where the skepticism originates from.

Riiight. Ever see "Inception"?

Did you happen to see the size of Bane in the trailer? Look at the clear difference between him and Batman.


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Post  Father Finian on Wed Jul 20, 2011 4:39 am

Apologist Puncher wrote:I have ALWAYS been one to call a spade a spade. You should know that by now.

What make you think I was directing that to you? It was Colors and Web I was clearly addressing.

Whatever, but hypocritical crap like the stuff Colors posts undermines this site's credibility, and it's members.

Cancel my membership thanks, this place has lost it's way.

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Post  Apologist Puncher on Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:27 pm

Father Finian wrote:Riiight. Ever see "Inception"?

I have. And I noticed all of the PRACTICAL EFFECTS.

Did you happen to see the size of Bane in the trailer? Look at the clear difference between him and Batman.

Yes. Camera tricks, just like I said earlier.

Nolan hired Tom Hardy because of familiarity, not because he was the best person for the part. If you can't see that, I don't know what to tell you.

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Post  Apologist Puncher on Wed Jul 20, 2011 8:33 pm

Father Finian wrote:What make you think I was directing that to you? It was Colors and Web I was clearly addressing.

Because I have expressed my issues with Nolan's Bane casting for 'The Dark Knight Rises'. Many times.

Whatever, but hypocritical crap like the stuff Colors posts undermines this site's credibility, and it's members.

Wrong.

Cancel my membership thanks, this place has lost it's way.

If throwing a hissy-fit and running away is how you want to do it, that's your prerogative. But keep in mind that you haven't exactly been a regular presence posting here in the first place.

Cancel your own membership. You have that option.

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