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Post  Comicbookfan-V2 Fri Nov 05, 2010 6:30 pm

I just visited Superherohype.com and I just discovered so more info on planned "Superman" films that never got off the ground and this is one of them... "Superman Returns" co-writer Michael Dougherty has finally revealed what he and others had plan for a possible SR sequel and so far he stated that they were planning on making a ACTION oriented film probably just to fill in that gap that the first film was lacking. It was also planned to put a Kryptonian invasion but not necessarily a hostel one and they were even plans on bringing Brainiac into the mix but that part was still debatable at that time.

Personally I not even certain if this info is true or not and even if it were I don't think it still be good enough nor will it make up for the mess that the last film left behind!

Here's the link to the full article... http://www.moviehole.net/201033129-what-would-doughertys-superman-sequel-have-been

What do you guys think?


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Post  webhead2006 Fri Nov 05, 2010 6:37 pm

We were talking about it in another thread. But ha this probably would have been bad just like sr.
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Post  Apologist Puncher Fri Nov 05, 2010 8:41 pm

Basically he is admitting his film was garbage, but saying it's not garbage, but that the sequel that was never greenlit would have had 1,000 and 1 villains and Kryptonians showing up for some fun & sun, but then get angry when they are caught peeping on regular humans in their homes so they father illegitimate murdering kids until Brainiac shows up and shrinks all of their costumes to show the muscle suits underneath, causing them to all lift mountains all across the Earth to show their "awesomneness".

All a bunch of bullshit and hyperbole.
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Post  Comicbookfan-V2 Fri Dec 24, 2010 7:27 am

Heads up you guys!!! I just discovered more details of what Bryan Singer really had in mind if he were given the chance to direct & greenlight a sequel to "Superman Returns"! It's been said the Bryan haven't fully completed the script for his propose SR sequel but here's the synopsis that is said to be linked to the incomplete scriptment...

Just a reminder, I can't guaranteed if this is real or not so bear with me!

Superman: The Man of Steel

TMS started just a few years after the incidents that we saw in Superman Returns. Kal-El is doing what Superman does best, Lois Lane is raising her kid Jason, who of course is Superman's child and the world is getting use to having Superman back.

Now there are storyline threads that go back to Superman Returns, one is the on going plot of Superman's original reason of going back to Krypton. He has always wondered if he truly is the last Son of Krypton.

Remember new Krypton that Lex created with crystals he stole from the Fortress of Solitude and Kryptonite that Supes launched into to space that nearly killed him?

So new Krypton continues to grow in space and has become an almost perfect sphere. It is now the size of a small moon.

Besides giving Humans something to admire at night, Earth new satellite has also brought some unexpected attention from a galaxy far, far away.

A massive spaceship arrives Earth's orbit, Superman flys up to meet the spacecraft and we are introduced to our out of this world visitor.

Superman quickly finds out that our visitor is also a Kryptonian survivor who has been traveling the known galaxies and was able to detect Kryptonian technology thanks to our new green/black satellite that has started to orbit the Earth.

Superman finally has found a Kryptonian buddy and starts showing him around the planet, a planet full of problems, disease, famine, crime and nations at war with each other.

Our new Kryptonian friend asks Superman why, with all his power, is he not changing the world for the better. Why is he not getting rid of famine, disease and war? Of course fans know that Superman has always been told, or better said instructed, not to interfere with Earth's development.


Superman explains that he is not allowed to interfere but his Krypto buddy tells him that with their powers they are required to "interfere," Superman disagrees.

Krypto buddy decides to take charge and starts "interfering" from day one. One of the first things that he does is get involved in a political mess that is heating up between two third world nations.

War breaks out between these two nations but before any real battle breaks our Krypto buddy interferes and lays waste to these two Armies.

He declares to the world that he will not allow anymore wars and/or the destruction of our planet. He is declaring a "War Free" planet and for those who disagree he will have to deal with them.

The major nations of the planet applaud his actions and all agree to an immediate worldwide peace. In return he promises to share technology, fight hunger, famine and disease.

The population of the world rejoices and any small pockets of resistance is quickly squashed by Krypto buddy or even the world governments.

Superman has now become a pariah, the way the world sees it, he has been here for years and had kept technology that could have saved many of the worlds problems.

Superman starts getting a bit suspicious of Krypto buddy and decides to go talk to him. He goes to his spaceship and has a revelation. This massive ship is full of hundreds if not thousands of identical bodies aboard, yep, clones of Krypto buddy, in stasis.

So Superman digs a bit more inside the "computer" system, which is familiar to him since it's Kryptonian technology just like the Fortress of Solitude.

Superman finds out that Krypto buddy is actually an artificial intelligence from Krypton that has evolved since the destruction of their world.

He escaped Krypton just like Kal-El did and his real name is Brainiac. He has been going from planet to planet, taking their technology, helping these worlds reach a relative perfection and then he destroys them and moves on.

Superman also finds out that he was actually responsible for the destruction of Krypton and tries to warn the leaders of the world but is confronted by Braniac. A massive battle ensues and Superman is about to defeat his foe but right just before Brainiac downloads his conscience into one oh his other clones.

Superman realizes that he must destroy this massive ship along with all the clones aboard. After another massive battle he is able to disable the ship, destroy the clones and the new Braniac but right before the ship is destroyed the Braniac main frame does a local search for another body that he could download in to, it has to be Kryptonian, and he finds another one on Earth, Superman's kid
Jason White.

So Brainiac uses Kryptonian technology and beams/download itself into Jason's body and this causes causes him to age and grow into a full adult but with Brainiac in complete control.

Superman realizes what just happened and rushes to confront his very own son who is now possessed by Brainiac.

Is Jason still there or is it all Brainiac? It's all Braniac and Superman knows what he has to do, he must defeat Brainiac at all costs or the planet and it's inhabitants will be doomed.

It's a battle between two gods but Superman has already been run ragged and beat down pretty bad in his previous battles of the day. Brainiac has the upper hand and Superman is trying to not to do any permanent damage to Jason's body.

Every time Brainiac is defeated in the past he simply tries to download to another clone and leaves that body completely brain dead but with no other bodies left, will Jason survive? The answer in no.

There is a Christ like metaphor here. Superman has to sacrifice his own son to save humanity.

What do you guys think?

P.S. To read the full article click here... http://iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=10633&Itemid=71


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Post  webhead2006 Fri Dec 24, 2010 10:05 am

What's different from when this was first revealed a few weeks ago?
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Post  Apologist Puncher Fri Dec 24, 2010 9:06 pm

Comicbookfan-V2 wrote:Heads up you guys!!! I just discovered more details of what Bryan Singer really had in mind if he were given the chance to direct & greenlight a sequel to "Superman Returns"! It's been said the Bryan haven't fully completed the script for his propose SR sequel but here's the synopsis that is said to be linked to the incomplete scriptment...

Just a reminder, I can't guaranteed if this real or not so bear with me!

Superman: The Man of Steel

TMS started just a few years after the incidents that we saw in Superman Returns. Kal-El is doing what Superman does best, Lois Lane is raising her kid Jason, who of course is Superman's child and the world is getting use to having Superman back.

Now there are storyline threads that go back to Superman Returns, one is the on going plot of Superman's original reason of going back to Krypton. He has always wondered if he truly is the last Son of Krypton.

Remember new Krypton that Lex created with crystals he stole from the Fortress of Solitude and Kryptonite that Supes launched into to space that nearly killed him?

So new Krypton continues to grow in space and has become an almost perfect sphere. It is now the size of a small moon.

Besides giving Humans something to admire at night, Earth new satellite has also brought some unexpected attention from a galaxy far, far away.

A massive spaceship arrives Earth's orbit, Superman flys up to meet the spacecraft and we are introduced to our out of this world visitor.

Superman quickly finds out that our visitor is also a Kryptonian survivor who has been traveling the known galaxies and was able to detect Kryptonian technology thanks to our new green/black satellite that has started to orbit the Earth.

Superman finally has found a Kryptonian buddy and starts showing him around the planet, a planet full of problems, disease, famine, crime and nations at war with each other.

Our new Kryptonian friend asks Superman why, with all his power, is he not changing the world for the better. Why is he not getting rid of famine, disease and war? Of course fans know that Superman has always been told, or better said instructed, not to interfere with Earth's development.


Superman explains that he is not allowed to interfere but his Krypto buddy tells him that with their powers they are required to "interfere," Superman disagrees.

Krypto buddy decides to take charge and starts "interfering" from day one. One of the first things that he does is get involved in a political mess that is heating up between two third world nations.

War breaks out between these two nations but before any real battle breaks our Krypto buddy interferes and lays waste to these two Armies.

He declares to the world that he will not allow anymore wars and/or the destruction of our planet. He is declaring a "War Free" planet and for those who disagree he will have to deal with them.

The major nations of the planet applaud his actions and all agree to an immediate worldwide peace. In return he promises to share technology, fight hunger, famine and disease.

The population of the world rejoices and any small pockets of resistance is quickly squashed by Krypto buddy or even the world governments.

Superman has now become a pariah, the way the world sees it, he has been here for years and had kept technology that could have saved many of the worlds problems.

Superman starts getting a bit suspicious of Krypto buddy and decides to go talk to him. He goes to his spaceship and has a revelation. This massive ship is full of hundreds if not thousands of identical bodies aboard, yep, clones of Krypto buddy, in stasis.

So Superman digs a bit more inside the "computer" system, which is familiar to him since it's Kryptonian technology just like the Fortress of Solitude.

Superman finds out that Krypto buddy is actually an artificial intelligence from Krypton that has evolved since the destruction of their world.

He escaped Krypton just like Kal-El did and his real name is Brainiac. He has been going from planet to planet, taking their technology, helping these worlds reach a relative perfection and then he destroys them and moves on.

Superman also finds out that he was actually responsible for the destruction of Krypton and tries to warn the leaders of the world but is confronted by Braniac. A massive battle ensues and Superman is about to defeat his foe but right just before Brainiac downloads his conscience into one oh his other clones.

Superman realizes that he must destroy this massive ship along with all the clones aboard. After another massive battle he is able to disable the ship, destroy the clones and the new Braniac but right before the ship is destroyed the Braniac main frame does a local search for another body that he could download in to, it has to be Kryptonian, and he finds another one on Earth, Superman's kid
Jason White.

So Brainiac uses Kryptonian technology and beams/download itself into Jason's body and this causes causes him to age and grow into a full adult but with Brainiac in complete control.

Superman realizes what just happened and rushes to confront his very own son who is now possessed by Brainiac.

Is Jason still there or is it all Brainiac? It's all Braniac and Superman knows what he has to do, he must defeat Brainiac at all costs or the planet and it's inhabitants will be doomed.

It's a battle between two gods but Superman has already been run ragged and beat down pretty bad in his previous battles of the day. Brainiac has the upper hand and Superman is trying to not to do any permanent damage to Jason's body.

Every time Brainiac is defeated in the past he simply tries to download to another clone and leaves that body completely brain dead but with no other bodies left, will Jason survive? The answer in no.

There is a Christ like metaphor here. Superman has to sacrifice his own son to save humanity.

What do you guys think?

P.S. To read the full article click here... http://iesb.net/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=10633&Itemid=71

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Post  道 Mon Apr 18, 2011 1:48 pm

Superman: The Man of Steel

TMS started just a few years after the incidents that we saw in Superman Returns. Kal-El is doing what Superman does best, Lois Lane is raising her kid Jason, who of course is Superman's child and the world is getting use to having Superman back.

<<snip>>

Superman realizes what just happened and rushes to confront his very own son who is now possessed by Brainiac.

Is Jason still there or is it all Brainiac? It's all Braniac and Superman knows what he has to do, he must defeat Brainiac at all costs or the planet and it's inhabitants will be doomed.

It's a battle between two gods but Superman has already been run ragged and beat down pretty bad in his previous battles of the day. Brainiac has the upper hand and Superman is trying to not to do any permanent damage to Jason's body.

Every time Brainiac is defeated in the past he simply tries to download to another clone and leaves that body completely brain dead but with no other bodies left, will Jason survive? The answer in no.

There is a Christ like metaphor here. Superman has to sacrifice his own son to save humanity.
This was originally posted over at BTN. MildMannered, KalMart, and Educator ripped it to shreds, IIRC... though I remember this synopsis having a different ending. The one posted at BTN had Superman stabbing Jason with a sunstone crystal to kill him. Which... um... yeah. Can't imagine Superman doing that to anybody, let alone a child.

BTN had a lot of WB production people hanging around, so this might have been an actual idea they threw out to test the waters. It could also just be fan-wank that someone held onto from the old days and is reposting now. Impossible to say for sure, but I do remember seeing this before.
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Post  Apologist Puncher Mon Apr 18, 2011 10:41 pm

It would have been horrid.

Period.
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Post  道 Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:26 am

What gets me is how it sounds decent enough up to the point where he kills the kid, and that could've been solved easily enough. Just send him into the Phantom Zone. At that point, you've basically got Mon-El with a more concise, easy-to-understand origin and minus the stupid (IMHO) weakness to lead.

Not that Singer and his writers would've thought of that angle, but it could've worked.
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Post  non_amos Wed Apr 20, 2011 4:31 pm

道 wrote:
Superman: The Man of Steel

TMS started just a few years after the incidents that we saw in Superman Returns. Kal-El is doing what Superman does best, Lois Lane is raising her kid Jason, who of course is Superman's child and the world is getting use to having Superman back.

<<snip>>

Superman realizes what just happened and rushes to confront his very own son who is now possessed by Brainiac.

Is Jason still there or is it all Brainiac? It's all Braniac and Superman knows what he has to do, he must defeat Brainiac at all costs or the planet and it's inhabitants will be doomed.

It's a battle between two gods but Superman has already been run ragged and beat down pretty bad in his previous battles of the day. Brainiac has the upper hand and Superman is trying to not to do any permanent damage to Jason's body.

Every time Brainiac is defeated in the past he simply tries to download to another clone and leaves that body completely brain dead but with no other bodies left, will Jason survive? The answer in no.

There is a Christ like metaphor here. Superman has to sacrifice his own son to save humanity.
This was originally posted over at BTN. MildMannered, KalMart, and Educator ripped it to shreds, IIRC... though I remember this synopsis having a different ending. The one posted at BTN had Superman stabbing Jason with a sunstone crystal to kill him. Which... um... yeah. Can't imagine Superman doing that to anybody, let alone a child.

BTN had a lot of WB production people hanging around, so this might have been an actual idea they threw out to test the waters. It could also just be fan-wank that someone held onto from the old days and is reposting now. Impossible to say for sure, but I do remember seeing this before.

Yeah. Superman killing a CHILD! Just what we need for a Superman film! Have you ever heard anything more idiotic or lame-brained than that?! That one is sure to sell action figures now ain't it? But it might be popular on the video game version, i.e., get to blow Jason away, etc. Certainly even Singer wasn't that stupid?!

I read something like this before but I also read another 'treatment' as to what duh sequel would've been. Remember Singer's 'boy-toy' writing team what's-their-names? I read one version where they were gonna introduce '3 Kryptonian villains' to come to Earth. Just how original is that?! At least I think Snyder's gonna handle that aspect properly.

If WB was hanging around Blue Nuts, then why would they 'leak' such idiotic ideas for a Superman film? Sure, a lot of folks didn't like 'the twerp' but c'mon! Killing him off wouldn't have helped this franchise either! At least the project is now in more capable hands.
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Post  thecolorsblend Wed Apr 20, 2011 5:23 pm

non_amos wrote:Yeah. Superman killing a CHILD! Just what we need for a Superman film! Have you ever heard anything more idiotic or lame-brained than that?! That one is sure to sell action figures now ain't it? But it might be popular on the video game version, i.e., get to blow Jason away, etc. Certainly even Singer wasn't that stupid?!
All of this points back to how dumb an idea it was to introduce Damien Kent Cyclops in the first place. I mean, it's just a stupid idea to give an icon like Superman a son in what's intended to be an ongoing narrative.

But the way they did it, holy shit, WHAT THE HELL DO YOU DO? HOW do you address THAT in a sequel? You can't put Superman with Lois because that's home-wrecking. You can't put Lois in harm's way (ie, her job) because that'd be reckless and selfish given her family life. Lois can't knowingly bring Damien into dangerous situations because that'd be irresponsible. You can't villify Cyclops because he's the only halfway decent person in the whole movie.

Someone (ie, Singer) needs an ass-kicking for that idiotic idea.

I read something like this before but I also read another 'treatment' as to what duh sequel would've been. Remember Singer's 'boy-toy' writing team what's-their-names? I read one version where they were gonna introduce '3 Kryptonian villains' to come to Earth. Just how original is that?! At least I think Snyder's gonna handle that aspect properly.
Rumors were all over the place. Brainiac was coming, Singerman would have a new love interest (see above), three Kryptonians would come to Earth, blah blah blah. To my knowledge, Singerman 2- Boy of Pleather never went beyond the pitch stage so for all I know maybe ALL those things were on the table at different points.

If WB was hanging around Blue Nuts, then why would they 'leak' such idiotic ideas for a Superman film? Sure, a lot of folks didn't like 'the twerp' but c'mon! Killing him off wouldn't have helped this franchise either! At least the project is now in more capable hands.
The only reason I could picture it happening would be to test the waters on what fans would be willing to tolerate... but I can't convince myself WB would ever stoop to submitting their ideas for fan approval. But if they were, I sure wish they'd have let us know when Singer was developing Singerman (although I realize now there was never any chance of saving that movie).
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